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Pedigo Perf 11-27-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 602846)
Stop calling it a "sport"! NHRA Sportsman Drag Racing is in the position that it's in because either the B-O-D, the Sponsors, the Track Owners, the Racers themselves, etc.etc.etc., blame whoever you want, allowed Drag Racing to become an expensive HOBBY! It is no longer a "sport"!

dictionary.com › browse › sport
noun. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

GUMP 11-27-2019 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nhramnl (Post 602843)
First, I AM saying that money in class racing is a relatively new thing. I am old enough to remember when class racing did not consist primarily of check-writing. The guys in the staging lanes actually built their cars, they didn't just assemble the stuff they paid others to do. Disagree if you want, but I WAS THERE.

I think that one thing that has greatly changed is that the factories have stopped handing out cars like they used to. There was a time when a lot talented racers would get serious help.


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They didn't pull their COPO Camaro, transported in a stacker trailer, with a $500,000 motorhome. They towed their home-built car, on an open trailer, with a pickup truck.
I agree, you don't see that much any more. Even when I started it was hard to get a hotel room on race weekends. Now the pits are full of motorhomes and hotel rooms are pretty easy to find. That's one thing that I don't get. You can't say that it is tied to the new cars because it started way before that. Maybe it's an age thing that started it? A lot of the current racers are at an age where they have some "expendable" money for creature comforts?


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I'm talking about a very specific group of "racers", who aren't really racers at all. They're "poseurs", who decide to spend their money (hard-earned, or otherwise) on "something cool", like drag racing.
I haven't met many of "those" guys. Several haven't lasted long.


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How many "put racing to the side to build a career" guys do you REALLY assume there are?
More than the other kind. I find them much more dedicated and enthusiastic than a lot of the guys who have been at it for a long time.


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And why do you single out the rich guys as having "nice stuff".
I didn't.

Bob Smith 11-27-2019 02:15 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
It seems that lowering the index's would not hurt the racers at the bottom so much. Everyone should be able to run 2 tenths under the index in 2019/2020...especially with all that NHRA has allowed racers to do in recent years.

It will be a positive for those many racers that do work hard and spend a lot of money so that they can run their cars without being penalized, holding back so much and shutting off at the 1,000. Not fun to watch! Even combos that are not considered "soft" can go 1.00 second under the index these days...why penalize them for the rules that NHRA has allowed or the money they spent or hard work the racer put in?! Stock and Super Stock are performance categories and meant to go fast, not shut-off and hold back.

Billy Nees 11-27-2019 02:18 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
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Originally Posted by Pedigo Perf (Post 602848)
dictionary.com › browse › sport
noun. an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc.

OK wise guy,

dictionary.com/browse/hobby
noun.an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation

So it's still a "sport" to Fletcher.

Lenny5160 11-27-2019 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 602857)
OK wise guy,

dictionary.com/browse/hobby
noun.an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation

So it's still a "sport" to Fletcher.

When did "hobby" and "sport" become mutually exclusive terms? For me, racing absolutely falls under both headings.

Billy Nees 11-27-2019 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lenny5160 (Post 602861)
When did "hobby" and "sport" become mutually exclusive terms? For me, racing absolutely falls under both headings.

Can you generate an income doing it? Could you possibly generate an income doing it? Will it at least generate enough monies to pay for itself? If not, then you are doing it using disposable income. It's a hobby.

Lenny5160 11-27-2019 04:39 PM

Re: Index Change Rumor
 
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Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 602862)
Can you generate an income doing it? Could you possibly generate an income doing it? Will it at least generate enough monies to pay for itself? If not, then you are doing it using disposable income. It's a hobby.

Yes, I said that in my post. It is a hobby.

It is also a sport. I don't see where the definition of sport has anything to do with income, be it primary or supplemental.

I also bowl. It is a hobby, and it is a sport.

duster1256 11-27-2019 05:11 PM

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[QUOTE=Bob Smith;602856]It seems that lowering the index's would not hurt the racers at the bottom so much. Everyone should be able to run 2 tenths under the index in 2019/2020...especially with all that NHRA has allowed racers to do in recent years.

I'm at the bottom and still sorting out my combo its a fresh build. I spent the money on an LD340 intake which got me close to 4 under then NHRA took it away. Just when you think you are headed in the right direction. That hurt.

Kingpen 11-27-2019 05:50 PM

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Thanks Bryan,I appreciate the kind words.Yes, I am finding out nobody gives anything away anymore,but I'll be OK as Ive never gotten anything free before anyway,but still trying!...My SRAC guy said he doesnt know a thing about lowering the index's.Good luck to all and have a Happy Thanksgiving......Victor Penrod

Billy Nees 11-27-2019 06:00 PM

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[QUOTE=duster1256;602865]
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Originally Posted by Bob Smith (Post 602856)
It seems that lowering the index's would not hurt the racers at the bottom so much. Everyone should be able to run 2 tenths under the index in 2019/2020...especially with all that NHRA has allowed racers to do in recent years.

I'm at the bottom and still sorting out my combo its a fresh build. I spent the money on an LD340 intake which got me close to 4 under then NHRA took it away. Just when you think you are headed in the right direction. That hurt.

Whoa,wait a minute, all of the 340 guys said that the LD340 wasn't worth anything. Now NHRA has (rightfully) taken it away and all of the 340 guys are going just as fast as they were. They couldn't be f**g with the stock intakes........... naaa couldn't be.


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