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Carguy49 08-22-2022 10:30 AM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
This weekend was a NHRA Open @ Bremerton Raceway. We only had 10 Stock and Super Stockers show up for the combo. Here is the list of cars.

1 u/sa 72 comet
2 gt/la 91 olds calais
3 l/sa 65 valiant
4 t/sa 72 maverick
5 w/sa 76 pinto wagon
6 i/sa 66 chevelle
7 u/sa 79 mustang
8 p/sa 89 mustang
9 ss/la 76 roadrunner
10 n/sa 74 grand am

At the 1st race on Sat the winner was the u/sa 79 mustang of Gary Gandee, jr. Sunday's race was won by Darrick Ellam in his w/sa 76 Pinto Wagon.

Yes, Bremerton is an 1/8 mile track, but a win is still a win. Congrats to slow cars winning.

James Hensler 08-22-2022 11:09 AM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
When I raced Division 3 out of National Trails there was a 1964 Nova 6 cylinder 4 door if I remember correctly. The thing ran something like 18 seconds and trust me NO ONE. Wanted him in the other lane!

Larry Merk 09-12-2022 02:37 AM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Gary Gandee didn't get the memo that slow cars don't win and doubled up this weekend winning both races and $4,000 with his U/SA Mustang at the Northwest Class Racers double-header race at Renegade Raceway in Yakima, Washington.

Mark Yacavone 10-12-2022 12:56 PM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
First, Congrats to Brent K for his r/u in race 1 last weekend.

I hope he doesn't mind me mentioning this, but there are no secrets on the 'net anymore...It was on NHRA TV, NHRA Y/T, Div. Live Timing, and DRC.
Every run, around 70 mph. Even the announcer mentioned this.The car runs about 83-84 mph.

For the dozen who will read this, and the half dozen who might reply, .....
Spot dropping? Holding and then working the finish line brakes? Giving it up and hoping the other guy is holding, big time? Trying to dial on the money, and hoping the other guy has no room?
What works for you? What doesn't ? Mum is the operative word here?

Lenny5160 10-12-2022 02:26 PM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 669009)
Spot dropping? Holding and then working the finish line brakes? Giving it up and hoping the other guy is holding, big time? Trying to dial on the money, and hoping the other guy has no room?
What works for you? What doesn't ? Mum is the operative word here?

It could or even should be any of the above, with the decision made in the final 500 feet of the racetrack. Why give the opponent a stationary (relatively speaking) target to hit?

I love watching that car go rounds, which it does pretty regularly. Congrats on a great day!

Al Wilson 10-12-2022 05:09 PM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
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A couple of years ago,

http://www.1960plymouth.com/AMC/winner_circle.jpg
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Runner up the same event last year. Always had good luck at Atlanta, sad it's gone.

http://www.1960plymouth.com/AMC/IMG_2411.JPG



My first stocker, slow, but have had good luck.

Tom Meyer 10-12-2022 08:04 PM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Did you know Brent was 2002 Div 5 sportsman et champion, along with being voted et driver of the year? At last years class racer revival race his stout little Mopar won the cic race over some very good cars. He has worked hard on his combo and his driving and it shows. It's not what you drive it's how you drive it. Showing my age but how many people remember Brett Kepners how to in SSDI Doctor Dirt story of how to win in a slow car. Tim Nicolson super gas car dropping going 100 when most cars are going 150 plus, many other racers are doing the same thing. Hopefully everybody is having fun, whatever they are doing. Tom

GarysZ24 10-12-2022 10:41 PM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone (Post 669009)
First, Congrats to Brent K for his r/u in race 1 last weekend.

I hope he doesn't mind me mentioning this, but there are no secrets on the 'net anymore...It was on NHRA TV, NHRA Y/T, Div. Live Timing, and DRC.
Every run, around 70 mph. Even the announcer mentioned this.The car runs about 83-84 mph.

For the dozen who will read this, and the half dozen who might reply, .....
Spot dropping? Holding and then working the finish line brakes? Giving it up and hoping the other guy is holding, big time? Trying to dial on the money, and hoping the other guy has no room?
What works for you? What doesn't ? Mum is the operative word here?

Very belated thanks for the nice comments you said about my wins early this year, and 2yrs ago yesterday Mark. When I look back on that race I have to give GOD Big Time thanks that I won several of those rounds, because one or two thousandths of a second (or even .009 difference vs Jody), could've taken me out in a few of those races. Fortunately for me it must've been my day, and I will be thankful for all the luck I had! I went to that race feeling really good thanks to my quarter-final finish two days earlier, and losing a very close race to the Super Stock Mustang of John Calvert 2wks prior (that was winnable also).

I watched Brent's race, and maybe he did lift a little....I've done that more times than I care to remember! It's absolutely harder to judge a car that spots you 4 + seconds at the starting line, but you Mark, Brent, myself and Bill, Billy, Rob in FWD Stockers, and all of the slow running RWD others have proven it's not impossible! I was rooting for you Brent, and echoed the sentiments of the great Alan Reinhart, when it went the other guys way, and by how close it was! Sometimes you get penalized for slowing down too much, not enough, or not at all.

Keep doing what you're doing Brent, and I will do my best to do so as well!

4284spd 10-13-2022 01:01 AM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Just a honest opinion from a fan that travels all around taking pictures but races in other sanctions, the normal spectators always root for the slow cars to lose early so they don't have to watch them! Just a honest opinion! I have had several FWD guy's ask me why I don't take any pictures of their cars and honestly, it's because I have zero interest. I want stick cars and ones that make a great picture.

Billy Nees 10-13-2022 07:22 AM

Re: Misconception on a slow stocker winning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4284spd (Post 669045)
Just a honest opinion from a fan that travels all around taking pictures but races in other sanctions, the normal spectators always root for the slow cars to lose early so they don't have to watch them! I want stick cars and ones that make a great picture.

Gee, lucky for me I'm not a picture guy!


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