Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

Anyone?

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

Since it was running C/S, I have to assume it was running the top option Tri-Power 389, which was 360hp, according to Class Racer Info. The next lower hp looks to be 335hp, with 1 AFB 4-barrel. That engine would run a lower class.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...3&MAKE=Pontiac

The Royal '66 also ran C/S. I assume that was the highest class a '66 could run, in '66. Not sure tho.

Just looked back a few posts & realized that you were asking about the '69 D/SA Judge. From everything I can find out, D was the highest class a '69 could run, that year. That would mean that the D/SA '69 Judge was running the 370hp RA4 engine. As far as I know, the NHRA min weight for a '69 has always been 3500lbs. But I have no idea what the NHRA hp factor was at any given time, back in the old days.

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

DC - The Poncho is JackBriner, winner H/SA. I think the Pegersen pic was the final run off against Merkle.

Here’s another.

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

DC....Where’d you get to, you're missed!

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

I would really be interested in knowing what was the quickest time a legal '66 GTO Stocker ever ran, in national NHRA competition, who sponsored the car, who built it, & who drove it. :confused:

Would also like to know what year the last SERIOUS '66 Tri-Power GTO Stocker raced, in national NHRA competition. :confused:

I'm not aware of any that have run this century.

May not have been any since the late '60's or early '70's, since there have been so many later model Pontiac combos that were more competitive.

Unless a '66 GTO would show up on some win list or nat record list, I don't know how you'd ever find the info I'm talkin about.

I'll ask on a couple of Pontiac sites I'm on & see if anybody has any related info.

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

Unfo most win lists don’t detail model, and often not even model year.

I know a 66 2+2 won H/SA...but thats not a GTO.

When I was writing up Pontiac for my site...for 1966, I found it VERY difficult finding any GTO pics of NHRA stockers.

It may be that they weren’t very class competetive....but thats DC’s area of expertise....

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

"...for 1966, I found it VERY difficult finding any GTO pics of NHRA stockers..."

I don't have any trouble finding pics, for cars that raced that year. But, just can't find much info about any '66 GTO's that raced AFTER '66.

Maybe most of the serious Pontiac Stock racers switched to the '67 Bird's, with the new 400 engine, Q-jet carb, & TH400 trans.

Then in '68, there were the open chamber D-port heads & the RA2 round port head engines.

Then of course, came the RA4 engines, in '69. Guessing that by '69, most all the serious '66 GTO Stockers were gone.

So, I have no idea if the '66 Tri-Power GTO's ever got into the 11's or not. Guessing that low 12's is as quick as they got, in legal Stock form, before they disappeared from the tracks.

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

If you have a pic of a 64 with class chalkings and possible ET I’d be most grateful.

I had to use a pic of the GeeTO promo car!

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

Well, the pics I have of NHRA '64 GTO Stockers don't have chalk markings. But I do have pics of 3, which had B/S PAINTED on 'em. Assume all 3 were Tri-Power cars.

None have an ET marked on 'em. The pic of the Gay Pontiac GTO was very small, since it was part of a pic of their 3-car hauler rig. But, it does have B/S on it. The Packer Pontiac GTO LOOKS like a serious Stocker. But I don't know how quick it was. Assume there were some running mid 12's.

The "Lil 2 Speed" car apparently ran AHRA, which had different rules. So the chalk markings are quite different than NHRA markings. I think they could run one 2-barrel carb, or one 4-barrel carb, or multiple carbs, with the same car. It would just be in a different class, with each carb set-up.

Re: Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68
 

I assume I'm probably the last guy to know about this.

But, just in case I'm not, & somebody else might get some use out of it, this appears to be pdf versions of '58 thru '69 NHRA rule books.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2006u57wp...myEgvaR8KYSowa

Sure would like to find access to lots of old ND papers, to get nat record info & race results from.