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Shaun Quill 02-16-2016 10:11 PM

Re: EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race
 
I love how Mr. Scott talks!!!!!

FireSale 02-16-2016 10:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CMcAllister (Post 495885)
Update on the subject at hand.

http://theshopmag.com/features/sema-...cing-mod-rules

Call and/or email your congressional representatives. SEMA is taking this seriously, everyone with any involvement in the sport, hobby, industry, etc., should as well.


EPA Administrator McCarty appeared before a congressional committee last week. In the middle of the 3 hour session, this 2 1/2 minute exchange took place between she and Rep. Austin Scott of Georgia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYbv8PIwqgs

Some people in Congress are paying attention to this. They need to know that we are also.

I watched the video and that gal has to go. She didn't seem to know the language discussed was even in the rules written by her department. This from a Democrat who thinks the EPA is, in general, a good thing.

Scott's closing statement is what has struck me most about this whole thing. Wording relating to race cars buried in legislation dedicated to heavy trucks.

Go to YouTube and enter "EPA and race cars" in the search field if you have time to kill.

Dale

John Kissel 02-17-2016 12:21 AM

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Does anybody doubt just how important it is to vote? The one before she got this position was from n.j. and was worse. John Kissel

jim reynolds 02-17-2016 01:19 AM

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Like !!!!
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Originally Posted by firesale (Post 495927)
i watched the video and that gal has to go. She didn't seem to know the language discussed was even in the rules written by her department. This from a democrat who thinks the epa is, in general, a good thing.

Scott's closing statement is what has struck me most about this whole thing. Wording relating to race cars buried in legislation dedicated to heavy trucks.

Go to youtube and enter "epa and race cars" in the search field if you have time to kill.

Dale


jim reynolds 02-17-2016 01:33 AM

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[Agreed....no longer a lifelong Democrat! Finally woke up! SO is Bruce a democrat... sounds like me several years ago, before I saw how bad the housing authority was screwing me and my company over! We had the cleaning contract with them and I finally got tired of seeing the Free phones, rent, food, and more while I'm crawling around on all 4's cleaning and repairing their carpets while they deal dope in the streets and drive cars better than mine!!!QUOTE=Mark Yacavone;495081]For some of my "lifelong Democrat" friends on Facebook who also love race cars... Please note from which direction these attacks on your liberty usually come from.[/QUOTE]

Dan Fletcher 02-17-2016 09:08 AM

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This is crazy, but its obviously real and could actually happen. The very first post on page one with the link to SEMA has a VERY easy link to sign the petition. Take the two seconds to do so!

And for the first time ever in my life, I just emailed my Congress person!

Tom keedle 02-17-2016 10:32 AM

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search this:"epa spills into colorado river"

House of Darts 02-17-2016 11:15 AM

Re: EPA To Prohibit the Conversion of Street Cars into Race
 
I just took the time to read all 12 pages of posts. I remember back in the mid to late 70's and 80's how the local or state police would roll into a legitimate car show or gathering and go car by car and look for cats, air pumps, plumbing to the carb or air filter and write tickets. Remember that that they were enforcing a Fed law and or a copy cat state law or local ordinance.There is a resurgence in automobiles and racing. Less regulation! Less intrusion! Less intervention! Every year new laws and new taxes. Is life getting easier?

CMcAllister 02-17-2016 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by House of Darts (Post 495968)
I just took the time to read all 12 pages of posts. I remember back in the mid to late 70's and 80's how the local or state police would roll into a legitimate car show or gathering and go car by car and look for cats, air pumps, plumbing to the carb or air filter and write tickets. Remember that that they were enforcing a Fed law and or a copy cat state law or local ordinance.There is a resurgence in automobiles and racing. Less regulation! Less intrusion! Less intervention! Every year new laws and new taxes. Is life getting easier?

Does anyone doubt that state authorities would come to a race track or car show and seize the opportunity to do the same thing on bracket, Stock and Super Stock cars that were originally street legal? Especially in certain states in the Northeast and on the west coast? And especially once they found out it was easy pickins to create a substantial revenue score? EPA could and would give them the legal standing and coerce them to do so. It's not like there isn't a history of that happening already in other enforcement efforts. It's what they do.

Continue to spread the word and bug your representatives. It is being noticed.

http://theshopmag.com/features/how-s...ion-went-viral

Grey Ghost 02-17-2016 01:06 PM

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For decades the heavy truck industry offered what they called glider kits (body in white). If your old truck had a good drive train you wanted to keep using you could order a new chassis without a motor or trans and the manufacture would build the chassis to accept your older motor/trans combination.

In 2004 EPA emission mandates hit the heavy trucks. The 2004-2007 requirements were "liveable" for the most part. They did have problems which have been ironed out. 2008 to present have major issues with their emission programs. According to wrecker services in my area 9 out of 10 hooks are emission control problems with the newer trucks.

A new tractor ranges from $100 - $170k. Peterbilt/Kenworth are the only manufacturers still offering glider kits. Independent companies are the only ones allowed to install the older motors, factory dealers can not do it. They are installing 2003 and older non emission rebuilt motors in the new chassis. CAT 3406 and C15s, Cummins N14 and early ISXs, and Detroit 60 series engines all pre emission. The cost for the glider trucks with the older reliable motors is about the same as a new emission truck...which do you think are getting ordered?

To top it all off the emission trucks fuel mileage tanked 20% are more. On a truck getting 5 to 7 mpg this a significant drop and expense. If you consider the extra fuel burned with the emission mandates is the "carbon" output per truck really reduced?? Add down time with the new trucks to your bottom line also.

Nixon created the EPA. Congress gave the regulatory agencies the power to write and enact regulations then they seem surprised when they are out of the "loop" when the dumber than real life agency heads try to enact this crap. Base line bugets are another example. Congess has become nothing more than a bunch of lazy a** es there only for their own welfare payments.


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