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Michael Beard 03-31-2015 02:50 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 466621)
Sammy, the slow guys/bracket contingent want you to lay down and lose, rather than them work as hard as you did to get fast.

Who exactly is advocating what you claim? :confused:

SSDiv6 03-31-2015 04:32 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
All I can say is WOW!!!
Over 24,000+ views on this post, even to the extent the server is getting bogged down!

All I can say is I have never seen this much bickering about HP on any other make before.

In the past when Mopars or Fords get hit, there is not the commotion except with the GM racers happy they got HP.

Now Chevy products get hit with HP and I don't see the other guys happy it happened, except for Chevy racers fighting within themselves!

I do not believe the two racers meant to go that fast; like it was said before, the Pro racers were also flying down the track.

In the years I have been in the sport, with the exception of setting a record or being protested, I have never seen an engine taken apart after hitting the AHFS. Wrong or right, I do not believe NHRA is going to change the way the have been doing it.

What I believe is there are a lot of cars that are capable of running fast and holding back. Nevertheless, all it takes one hiccup while driving, you go fast when you didn't expect to do so and the cat is out of the bag!

If anyone feel that either any of both racers were cheating, then wait until the next race and protest them.

Mike Pearson 03-31-2015 04:44 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
If you are in a heavily populated class then it is much more difficult to "protect your index" especially if you want to win class. Obviously these two racers wanted to win the class trophy and let it all hang out. Really this is what class racing is all about. The reality with tear down is lately I have only seen tear down when a record is set or at Indy. The last few years at the Gator's they haven't done any tear down.

Michael Beard 03-31-2015 05:08 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
This was not Class Eliminations, but rather 2nd round of eliminations of a national event, proved to be the critical round in winning the event, and an incredibly close run at that.

http://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCSt...r=100#indextop

Jason 03-31-2015 06:44 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 466660)
In the years I have been in the sport, with the exception of setting a record or being protested, I have never seen an engine taken apart after hitting the AHFS.

Guess you've not seen what happens at D-1 or D-3 events. Thats where there are teardowns for a -1.20 AHFS violation. At least they have always done that in the past. Who knows what will happen now.

JeremyDuncan 03-31-2015 06:48 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Lewis (Post 466649)
I know it is too late, but what do you think about only getting 1 round of qualifying in. This probably contributed to the 85 under rule not being met. Also I do not believe you could not say Sunday was not mineshaft conditions. I mean pro stock all running over 214mph and prostock bike almost 200 mph.
And I do have a dog in the fight as my combo got hit hard.
Hard to believe the LT1 has more hp than the LS1.
I am just glad that IHRA uses a little more common sense.

Mark Lewis

Even if the race would have fallen under the "Mineshaft" rule by half the feild qualifying at -.850 under or more. These combos would have still got hit because the mineshaft exception does not apply to going -1.200 or more under and receiving an immediate hp increase. Mineshaft rule only applies to getting review triggers on runs between -1.000 & -1.199 under

So guys shutting off did not effect these combos getting hit.

SSDiv6 03-31-2015 07:46 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason (Post 466677)
Guess you've not seen what happens at D-1 or D-3 events. Thats where there are teardowns for a -1.20 AHFS violation. At least they have always done that in the past. Who knows what will happen now.

LOL!!! You call going fast a violation?


I believe a lot of factors were involved such as;

1. Only one qualifying pass that didn't allow a baseline for follow on runs.

2. Not enough time for tear down if NHRA was willing to do so although I believe they will not done so at a national event unless they was class.

3. Excellent weather conditions that affected every class.

4. Two great racers ducking it out to win. :)

Ed Wright 03-31-2015 08:49 PM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Beard (Post 466650)
Who exactly is advocating what you claim? :confused:

The people whining and complaining to Sammy when he won those races, and got hp. Who did you think? I'm sure the Warrens are hearing about it too.

jmracing 04-01-2015 08:17 AM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
JMRACING
This morning 396 came back at 399hp ????
and LT1 350 also came bact at 346hp ????
http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...635&zoneid=132
Under STOCK CAR CLASSIFICATION PONTIAC 1998
396
*
Auto 350
B*
285hp




8,70


9,38




346
1.1.10
WS6
RAM
AIR


Iron Heads
375


8,51

9,13

399
1.1.10

dannyboy 04-01-2015 08:30 AM

Re: Monday Morning Horsepower?
 
April Fools?



Now on to reality!!
Anytime you have a heads up in eliminations you have to pull out all stops to advance to the next round


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