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Hemi Moose 03-19-2012 06:15 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom keedle (Post 316334)
1512 made, no autos to my knowledge...all 4 speeds.

Tom thanks, that's good to know...could you post any other info or photo's that you might have on these '69 SC/Ramblers...very cool looking performance cars.

Tom keedle 03-19-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 316362)
Tom thanks, that's good to know...could you post any other info or photo's that you might have on these '69 SC/Ramblers...very cool looking performance cars.

i'm in no way an expert on the sc/ramblers but here's a place to start;

http://www.amazingmusclecars.com/1512registry/guest.php

http://www.the1512hurstscramblerregi...ng_history.php

Paul Ceasrine 03-20-2012 12:48 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
1969 AMC SC/Rambler

Was a result of a collaboration between AMC's Walt Czamecki and
Dave Landrith from Hurst Performance Research.

On February 13, 1969, AMC had a press release, announcing the partnership deal with Hurst Performance.

The heart of the SC/Rambler was the 390 V-8.
It's 315 HP peak came on relatively early at 4600 RPM,
but there was a barrel full of low-end torque, at 425 lb-ft @3200 RPM.

For a high performance engine, the compression was somewhat mild at 10.2 -1 with flat top pistons.

Atop the cast iron dual-plane high rise intake manifold, was a
Carter AFB (625 CFM) with 1.44" primaries and 1.69" secondaries.

Log-style exhaust manifolds dumped to 2.25" dual-exhaust with
genuine Thrush glass-packs and chrome angle-tipped exhaust tips.

While AMC didn't offer any other engine choices for the SC/Rambler,
dealers could direct buyers to the Group 19 parts book.

The Borg-Warner T-10 (Close-ratio) was the cars only transmission, fitted with
a Hurst Competition/Plus shifter with Hurst linkage, and Hurst 'T' handle.

The rear-end was a Dana 20 unit, fitted with 3.54 gears and a
Twin-Grip limited slip differential. Heavy-duty universal joints were installed,
to help spin the power.

The SC/Rambler utilized the same unit body as the Rogue, but to handle
the 390's torque, additional frame mounts were fitted to accept
the AMX's torque-links.

Up front, the SC/Rambler utilized an independent front suspension with
unequal length upper and lower control arms, coil springs and
tubular shocks, as well as a large stabilizer bar.

At the rear, the live axle was mounted to semi-elliptical leaf springs and
torque-links. The left shock was staggered to control wheel hop.
Mounting-plates were welded to the frame for this specific suspension
design.

Inside the SC/Rambler, a charcoal vinyl split-bench seat with
red/white/blue striped head-rests was up front. A three-spoke steering wheel
with a plastic wood grain rim greeted the driver.

A huge Sun S635 8000 RPM Tachometer was strapped to the
steering column.

Initially, only 500 were to be produced. These 'first' 500 were painted Bright White with Bright Red flanks,
a wide Bright Blue stripe on the deck-lid and roof, and Bright Blue wheels.

This was known as the 'A' paint scheme. On the hood was the
'Mail Box' hood scoop. Just in case no one noticed it, a large
blue arrow pointed directly where the cold air was headed was
painted on the hood, red lettered '390 Cu. In' was the engine call-out
in between the blue arrow, and red lettered 'AIR' was placed on the hood scoop.

Paint Scheme 'A'

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t...sfha/R465p.jpg

Hemi Moose 03-20-2012 01:01 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
PC, great write up on the specs on the '69 SC/Rambler.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...08Show0016.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...08Show0004.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...08Show0010.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...08Show0002.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...08Show0018.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 03-20-2012 03:44 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
Moose,

Great photo post as usual,,,,,,,,,,,,you are the best...;)

More on the SC/Rambler,

Featuring a Borg-Warner T-10 close-ratio all-syncromesh transmission with;
(1st; 2.23) (2nd; 1.73) (3rd; 1.35) (4th; 1.00) ratios.

Also, a special heavy-duty clutch set-up.

Sub-frame connectors between the front and rear sub-frames.
A special steel plate riveted in the trunk, to provide for additional shock tower support.
Brackets for the sub-frame ends, that bolted to a threaded portion of
the sub-frame.

Hemi Moose 03-20-2012 04:15 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
http://www.my-car-picture.com/image-...bler-sheet.jpg

Tom keedle 03-20-2012 07:45 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 316535)
Moose,

Great photo post as usual,,,,,,,,,,,,you are the best...;)

More on the SC/Rambler,

Featuring a Borg-Warner T-10 close-ratio all-syncromesh transmission with;
(1st; 2.23) (2nd; 1.64) (3rd; 1.31) (4th; 1.00) ratios.

Also, a special heavy-duty clutch set-up.

Sub-frame connectors between the front and rear sub-frames.
A special steel plate riveted in the trunk, to provide for additional shock tower support.
Brackets for the sub-frame ends, that bolted to a threaded portion of
the sub-frame.

the subframe connectors were on all 69 ramblers (americans) and i've been told that it was a mid year 68 thing

i have a 69 2dr sedan and it has the subframe connectors...

unless we're talking about 2 different things

Paul Ceasrine 03-20-2012 11:42 PM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
There it is, on the SC/Rambler Hurst specification sheet.

#3160 lbs. (10.03 Wt/Hp Factor),,,,,,,F/Stock
or
Super Stock (SS/J)

Does anybody remember if the listed weight of the car was exaggerated by AMC to get the car into F/Stock (10.00 - 10.49 Wt/Hp).

Some say E/Stock for 1969, and others say F/Stock.

The 1967 Rogue hardtop with the 343 engine weighed in at #2971 lbs. Where was the other 189 lbs.

pc

Tom keedle 03-21-2012 02:32 AM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 316649)
There it is, on the SC/Rambler Hurst specification sheet.

#3160 lbs. (10.03 Wt/Hp Factor),,,,,,,F/Stock

Does anybody remember if the listed weight of the car was exaggerated by AMC to get the car into F/Stock (10.00 - 10.49 Wt/Hp).

Some say E/Stock for 1969, and others say F/Stock.

The 1967 Rogue hardtop with the 343 engine weighed in at #2971 lbs. Where was the other 189 lbs.

pc

those subframe connectors,disc brakes,torque links, etc. all add up...


btw, i think the 343 ramblers in 67 were the reason for the connectors....;)
they're NOT a very stiff car without them...

Dwight Southerland 03-21-2012 08:46 AM

Re: Rambler All-American
 
According to the classification guide, the SC/Rambler shipping weight is 3058. In comparison, the '65 Chevy II SS with a 327 is 2882 and the '66 Chevy II SS is 2917. Considering that the AMC V8 is approx 60 lbs heavier than the SBC and that AMC used a cast iron T10 to GM's aluminum Muncie, the weights seem reasonable and not "adjusted".


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