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Hey that's a great idea. Minting a new nhra coin. One side could say Heads We win and the other side could say Tails You lose.

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An idea whose time is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overdue.

M68

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Just be carefull of what you wish for, you might get it.
Look at what the beloved IHRA has done to Top Stock You needed a calculator to figure out what you need to weigh from week to week. That was very sucessful wasn't it.

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Art, the playing field should be level. NHRA should strive to have a fair and level field for all competitors. You seem to apologize for these new cars, their bogus hp ratings on the crate motors and the fact that they were never built for street use. I wonder if you had to race them heads up you would have a different attitude.

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BS! These new cars don't bring anymore people to the stands...That's just ignorant....Do you see any advertising for " Hey come see the new factor altered stickers whip embodies ***" Wrong.....again!

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Greg there is a place to race with a level playing field. Bracket racing.
I could be more inline with the rants about the new cars. If stock were really stock.
With all the chemical milling, the valve springs, the wheelie bars, the aftermarket heads, Etc.
I don't feel sorry for anyone. It's not totally the racers fault. The associations have allowed these things, or looked the other way.
How many racers on here that are complaining are using real stock cylinder heads?
Especially in the faster classes if they go 1 second under.
They should be able to do what they want. But stop the new cars.
I feel the guys with the acid porting, ruined stock for me back in 1980.
I didn't bitch to anyone I decided to quit while I was ahead.

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Whats different? 400 pontiacs racing 283 chevy ll in LA in the 80s, waving goodbye on top end. 400 Chevies with the wrong specs crushing others in the 90s Injected chevy vs Carb chevy . Still Bogus HP 305 with injections. Now the new cars just rub it in to the Class racers. You cannot get NHRA attention while they are making money. Stock and SS are just entry paying classes which take up too much Tech and talk time for them. The good part of the new cars is the Factory is interested but NHRA is just taking their money and racers and laughing all the way to the bank. To quote a line from a movie" It just doesnt MATTER". If a race is held and 170 SS cars PAY entry they must be doing something right (their opinion)
454 Truck motors in Cavaliers in GT/AA with BOGUS hp is no different. Since when do GT/AA cars run 8.7s that is .7 faster that the worked out combos did with real factors.
Integrity is NOT the issue, getting entrants to PAY is the issue. No racers will ever stick together to support another organization with the History of racing NHRA.
Want to Win BUY a NEW car Underfactored and all and join the fun. Want to fight them YOU LOSE. You must USE the rules given and the opening supported by the organization.

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This just about says it all !

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Integrity is THE issue. Yes indeed we are fighting them. This is a gutless outfit with a shiny exterior. Very similar to a grumpy old man yelling into a microphone while hidding behind a curtain.

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Bruce, You forget the pivotal point. THEY own the "football". They will change whatever rules, whenever and however they wish REGARDLESS of input. It is not a democracy it is a business. (Poorly run in some areas as seen by class racers but) Not a Democracy! THEIR business....Racers are just participants who pay entry to play by THE rules given.