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keith ohanesian 12-19-2008 07:54 PM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
Wow what a joke I think all the big heads can pass if go to tech with a lawyer friend. Mr Cambria can you help? Your not allowed to "grind" but they can't be bigger than the old acid ported SS heads. uuuuuuggggggggggg another freakin joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats next they outlaw camaros??????????????

JIM MARSHALL 12-19-2008 08:04 PM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by keith ohanesian (Post 96993)
Wow what a joke I think all the big heads can pass if go to tech with a lawyer friend. Mr Cambia can you help? Your not allowed to "grind" but they can't be bigger than the old acid ported SS heads. uuuuuuggggggggggg another freakin joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whats next they outlaw camaros??????????????

It's Mr. Cambria . Hey Keith i'm going to his Christmas Party on Saturday. Do you want me to ask him?
Merry Christmas.

keith ohanesian 12-19-2008 08:09 PM

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Sorry Jim super pissed and missed the r... I'm sure it would be on top of the pile..lol

s10stocker 12-19-2008 08:32 PM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
All us truck guys still have no clue on ccs. I even contacted IHRA to find out if they had my head listed. No one will know anything until we get torn down.

terry1 12-20-2008 10:08 AM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
I have a question.If a set of heads are larger than the published runner volumes,for what ever reason,core shift(LOL)etc.will the powers that be(IHRA,NHRA)allow the runner(s) to be filled to get to the correct volume?
If so,will that not open the door(if not already open)to acid/undercover port your heads to get the optimum flow rate then fill down/up to correct volume,sort of like a Superstock job with out the pollishing.

Bruce Noland 12-20-2008 10:18 AM

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No, the statement on the Lucas site is very clear.

zracer305 12-20-2008 11:07 AM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by terry1 (Post 97031)
I have a question.If a set of heads are larger than the published runner volumes,for what ever reason,core shift(LOL)etc.will the powers that be(IHRA,NHRA)allow the runner(s) to be filled to get to the correct volume?
If so,will that not open the door(if not already open)to acid/undercover port your heads to get the optimum flow rate then fill down/up to correct volume,sort of like a Superstock job with out the pollishing.

From the Lucas page:
Regardless of the poured volume measurement, any modifications to intake and exhaust runners are prohibited. Any evidence of modifications from the original castings will be grounds for disqualification. Final decision at the discretion of the Technical Services Department.

In my conversation with Bruce I asked the very same question. There can be no modifications in the runners at all. If it looks like modifications have been done, even if you are within the volume tolerances it will be considered grounds for disqualifications. Acid porting and/or undercover porting is not and has never been permitted in Stock.

Billy Nees 12-20-2008 12:22 PM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
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Originally Posted by zracer305 (Post 97039)
From the Lucas page:
Regardless of the poured volume measurement, any modifications to intake and exhaust runners are prohibited. Any evidence of modifications from the original castings will be grounds for disqualification. Final decision at the discretion of the Technical Services Department.

In my conversation with Bruce I asked the very same question. There can be no modifications in the runners at all. If it looks like modifications have been done, even if you are within the volume tolerances it will be considered grounds for disqualifications. Acid porting and/or undercover porting is not and has never been permitted in Stock.

Riiiiggggghhhhhttttttt.

SS Engine Guy 12-20-2008 03:52 PM

Re: Cylinder Head Runner Volumes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zracer305 (Post 97039)
Acid porting and/or undercover porting is not and has never been permitted in Stock.

I fully understand the intent of your statement as it has been stated in the rule book. However, it may have not been permitted however, it sure has been ACCEPTED on numerous occasions for whatever reasons.

Again this begs the question: What if my perfectly stock unmodified heads are 20 cc's smaller than the allowed SS spec? Do you modify them, look for a set of modified heads that have passed tech, or just take your beating from illegal entries?

X-TECH MAN 12-20-2008 04:57 PM

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Im with Billy Nees on this one. What a joke unless they do a 180 degree turn around and we all know that will happen.....lol.


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