Original hemi dart information - Page 140

treessavoy · 02-06-2012, 07:02 PM

OK southern racers. In the late '80's R&R Speed Shop in Huntsville AL raced an original '68 Dart. I don't know where it came from but I arranged the sale of it to a guy named Bill (not Blair) from Concord NC.

Does anyone have information on where it came from or where it went after the sale?

JimR

68hemiss · 02-06-2012, 07:39 PM

If it is the one I am thinking of - it was originally called "Rumble Bee" - probably still was - originally out of NC - it is still around owned by a collector/racer in PA - hing he drives a CJ now.
The white Barracuda is Ray Christian's old car - here owned by Bob Stape - former manager of Keystone Dragway

Nelson Stoltz restored his old Willys - talked to him and saw the car at the HRR in Bowling Green a number of years ago.

Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Dennis P Chapman · 02-06-2012, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss

If it is the one I am thinking of - it was originally called "Rumble Bee" - probably still was - originally out of NC - it is still around owned by a collector/racer in PA - hing he drives a CJ now.
The white Barracuda is Ray Christian's old car - here owned by Bob Stape - former manager of Keystone Dragway

Nelson Stoltz restored his old Willys - talked to him and saw the car at the HRR in Bowling Green a number of years ago.

Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Could be Don Fezell runs new CJ has a big collection of cars.

68hemiss · 02-06-2012, 07:46 PM

Paul,
Nice list - but there are a few mistakes - same car listed twice, 2nd owners, not real cars and some cars were not Darts or Barracudas. I made many of the same mistakes when I started the registry. One hint since the Joe Smith photo came up - The Joe Smith car and the McBroom Motors car are the same - I have pics of both and it is Joe Smith's car not sure what happened to the Dealer Sponsorship.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Th A.J. Foyt photo is interesting because he DID run a Chrysler very briefly for Norm Nelson in USAC - Norm was from here in town and his son showed me some pics of both cars on the trailer - 65 Plymouth I beleive - this might have been the Dealer that sponsored the car???

Paul Ceasrine · 02-06-2012, 08:26 PM

Mark,

Yes,,,,,,,,unfortunately many of the photo's do not have a date,,,,,,,
So I have to try and break them down,,,,,,,,,

I try to list accurate dates with my photo posts, as it gives a little more information on the car.....

Quite a few cars switched hands during 1968 and 1969....

pc

rawhide · 02-06-2012, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss

Paul,
Nice list - but there are a few mistakes - same car listed twice, 2nd owners, not real cars and some cars were not Darts or Barracudas. I made many of the same mistakes when I started the registry. One hint since the Joe Smith photo came up - The Joe Smith car and the McBroom Motors car are the same - I have pics of both and it is Joe Smith's car not sure what happened to the Dealer Sponsorship.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Th A.J. Foyt photo is interesting because he DID run a Chrysler very briefly for Norm Nelson in USAC - Norm was from here in town and his son showed me some pics of both cars on the trailer - 65 Plymouth I beleive - this might have been the Dealer that sponsored the car???

Foyt raced a Dodge for Ray Nichols in Nascar in 1964. He won the July race at Daytona. Ford could not provide him one of their Indy engines for the 500 and temperamental as Foyt was he gave the Ford people the finger when pulling into victory lane at Indy and so no Fords for AJ for a while. They kissed and made up and he won Daytona again in 1965 in a Ford.
regards, Roland

Hemi Moose · 02-06-2012, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68hemiss

The A.J. Foyt photo is interesting because he DID run a Chrysler very briefly for Norm Nelson in USAC - Norm was from here in town and his son showed me some pics of both cars on the trailer - 65 Plymouth I beleive - this might have been the Dealer that sponsored the car???
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Mark, I think Paul was referring to one of my earlier posts about the Kandi Kuda B029 '68 Hemi Barracuda which was sponsored by Northside dealership back then.

Quote:

Originally Posted by treessavoy

OK southern racers. In the late '80's R&R Speed Shop in Huntsville AL raced an original '68 Dart. I don't know where it came from but I arranged the sale of it to a guy named Bill (not Blair) from Concord NC. Does anyone have information on where it came from or where it went after the sale?
JimR

Do you remember what color or what the paint scheme looked like at the time on this '68 Hemi Dart you mentioned...

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Steve Stasko · 02-07-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemi Moose

Anyone know who's this '68 Hemi Barracuda was...

That's Bob Stape from the Pittsburgh area. Photo looks like Keystone Raceway Park (now Pittsburgh Raceway Park).

The Sox & Martin car with the torque-thrusts is the match race car.

68hemiss · 02-07-2012, 07:01 PM

Paul,
I was not being critical - you have done a great job - You are right many changed hands in that time period and the B body cars being classed as SS/B also confuses things - on top of that it seems that there are many typos in some of the Drag papers of that time. I have made many of the same mistakes (some of the same cars even) in my research. Another tip is that Phil Baily's Tinker Toy was not an original car.
Mark J
1968 Hemi S/S Registry

Yes,,,,,,,,unfortunately many of the photo's do not have a date,,,,,,,
So I have to try and break them down,,,,,,,,,

I try to list accurate dates with my photo posts, as it gives a little more information on the car.....

Quite a few cars switched hands during 1968 and 1969....

pc[/QUOTE]

Paul Ceasrine · 02-07-2012, 07:34 PM

Mark,,

No offense taken,,,,,,,,,

I would rather post a photo with accurate information, but unfortunately some photo's are from 1969 and later,,,,,,,

Chrysler really did a poor job of logging these cars, and keeping proper
information.

All the contributors to this thread have done a remarkable job,,,,,,helping document the 150 or so Hemi cars that were built and raced 40+ years ago.

It's been a fun ride,,,,,,,

pc

02-06-2012, 07:02 PM	#1391
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information OK southern racers. In the late '80's R&R Speed Shop in Huntsville AL raced an original '68 Dart. I don't know where it came from but I arranged the sale of it to a guy named Bill (not Blair) from Concord NC. Does anyone have information on where it came from or where it went after the sale? JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

02-06-2012, 07:39 PM	#1392
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information If it is the one I am thinking of - it was originally called "Rumble Bee" - probably still was - originally out of NC - it is still around owned by a collector/racer in PA - hing he drives a CJ now. The white Barracuda is Ray Christian's old car - here owned by Bob Stape - former manager of Keystone Dragway Nelson Stoltz restored his old Willys - talked to him and saw the car at the HRR in Bowling Green a number of years ago. Mark J 1968 Hemi S/S Registry

02-06-2012, 07:46 PM	#1394
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul, Nice list - but there are a few mistakes - same car listed twice, 2nd owners, not real cars and some cars were not Darts or Barracudas. I made many of the same mistakes when I started the registry. One hint since the Joe Smith photo came up - The Joe Smith car and the McBroom Motors car are the same - I have pics of both and it is Joe Smith's car not sure what happened to the Dealer Sponsorship. Mark J 1968 Hemi S/S Registry Th A.J. Foyt photo is interesting because he DID run a Chrysler very briefly for Norm Nelson in USAC - Norm was from here in town and his son showed me some pics of both cars on the trailer - 65 Plymouth I beleive - this might have been the Dealer that sponsored the car???

02-06-2012, 08:26 PM	#1395
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mark, Yes,,,,,,,,unfortunately many of the photo's do not have a date,,,,,,, So I have to try and break them down,,,,,,,,, I try to list accurate dates with my photo posts, as it gives a little more information on the car..... Quite a few cars switched hands during 1968 and 1969.... pc

02-07-2012, 07:01 PM	#1399
68hemiss Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 167 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Original hemi dart information Paul, I was not being critical - you have done a great job - You are right many changed hands in that time period and the B body cars being classed as SS/B also confuses things - on top of that it seems that there are many typos in some of the Drag papers of that time. I have made many of the same mistakes (some of the same cars even) in my research. Another tip is that Phil Baily's Tinker Toy was not an original car. Mark J 1968 Hemi S/S Registry Yes,,,,,,,,unfortunately many of the photo's do not have a date,,,,,,, So I have to try and break them down,,,,,,,,, I try to list accurate dates with my photo posts, as it gives a little more information on the car..... Quite a few cars switched hands during 1968 and 1969.... pc[/QUOTE]

02-07-2012, 07:34 PM	#1400
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Mark,, No offense taken,,,,,,,,, I would rather post a photo with accurate information, but unfortunately some photo's are from 1969 and later,,,,,,, Chrysler really did a poor job of logging these cars, and keeping proper information. All the contributors to this thread have done a remarkable job,,,,,,helping document the 150 or so Hemi cars that were built and raced 40+ years ago. It's been a fun ride,,,,,,, pc