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Old 09-25-2009, 07:24 AM   #91
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I took this at Indy in 76.

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Old 09-25-2009, 07:15 PM   #92
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Mopar 68,
You solved the mystery. Since Dover (Centolanza's home base) closed in May 76'. There was very little info on the black Cuda. Supposedly
held the NHRA SS/A record in 76', at 9.90 or so. I wonder if they were still involved with Mountain Garage, Highland Falls, NY at this time.
This car, if I'm correct, ended up in a small upstate New York (one-horse)
town. The guy who got it from Lou and Tony Centolanza had a small
car repair shop in Greene County, I think. I know, because I was at his
shop back in 1980, selling him BRM (Brush Research) cylinder honing brushes (4.25" of course, for the Hemi). He showed me the car, in his
2-car garage. Painted white (beautifully detailed). The car had a
tunnel-ram on it, and he was running it in A/MP. He had no shot at
winning in SS/A, too much handicap. Can't remember the name
off-hand, but this car must have been at Lebanon in 1980 or so. I think
he was looking to sell it for $15,000 at that time.
As soon as I get my data from my NY computer, I will post many
Super Stock Hemi photo's.

Oh, Yours to Mr. Jack Arnew.
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Old 09-26-2009, 12:31 AM   #93
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"Mopar 68,
You solved the mystery."

Really? Thanks, Paul. Glad to help anyway I can.

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Old 09-26-2009, 03:27 AM   #94
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MOPAR68,
You are my HERO.
How did you come up with that photo.
My POP'S car. (Really mine first). An original 69 M-Code 440 Cuda.
Built for C/SA back in 1982 or so.
History on car, if you want it.
I actually raced it twice at Dover at the end of 75'.
Unfortunately, as nice as that car was, my fathers heart wasn't really into
drag racing anymore. He let his partner Jerry D race it. My father
didn't like the haul up to Lebanon Valley, where they raced it a few times.
His heart was in hitting 7-irons 150 yards at James Baird Golf Course.
I owe you a dozen Canoli's. The good stuff from Arthur Avenue, not the
fake stuff from the Make-believe bakery's.

M68.. (Thanks for that post, brings back memories of when I drove that
440-Cuda (green originally) on the street. Nothing, and I mean nothing could touch that car. I have photo's of it, which I will post or can send you.

Paul (I'm Very Happy Today)
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Old 09-26-2009, 01:51 PM   #95
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Hello Paul,like story of hood flying off Ramstrom's FlintstoneCharger when racing Doc Burgess injected car.I have cover photo of both cars from 1320 News and always assumed the hood was removed for weight break since Burgess car running injectors,Flintstone Dodge also had both bumpers off.I also heard story Ramstrom swapped doors at one race with other car?? This may also explain why car hood scoop changed from orange to white in photo's I have gathered on car. Do you have any photos of this car?? On the Dart and the dealership where it came from I always wondered if car came from same dealer that Flynn's car came from which was in New Haven .Would be a big help if some shipping paperwork existed? Later, SteveOquote=Paul Ceasrine;142584]Bill Rodik
Flintstone Charger (Steve)
W J (Parachute Jumper; a/k/a Hemi Sky-Diver)
MarK J (Hemi Professor)

Very Good Hemi Hunting to you.
Bill, Nice posting on that white Cuda, Park Chrysler-Plymouth. Looks like a Dana-rear, another 4-speed. Look out, here comes another flying
driveshaft.

Steve (FlintstoneCharger). Great photos of the Flintstone Charger at
Dover 5/22/66 versus "Doc" Burgess, Black Arrow. The first time out for
Doc in an Hilborn-injected engine. The "Flintstone Charger" blew the
hood off the car earlier in the day. Ran later with no hood. Great close-ups of both cars on the line. 10.80's on a cold day.

W J... Southern-Connecticut dealer for Gene O'Neill's Dart, with help from Bill Flynn. Possible, Chorches Motors, Manchester, CT (just east of
Hartford). Or, another Hamden. This one located in southern-Connecticut
(just north of New Haven, Bill Flynn's home-base). Was there a
Hamden Dodge, Connecticut?

Mark J (Professor). Last I heard of "Playmate II" it ended up in a little town in Eastern, PA (Greentown, PA). But that was many moons ago.
Charlie Lendrum's Dart kind of vanished into the sunset.

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Old 09-26-2009, 07:25 PM   #96
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Lou Centolanza ran his 'Cuda sometime in the mid-1970s up to at least 1977.



(No, it's not the Baptiste car.)

M68
ok a little lou centolanza up to date history, he was just at my shop today dropping off his 1969 plymouth barracuda g/s car it is a 383 4bbl 4spd,it is his first race car since the black hemi in the late 1970's,we have been building for the last year, i am going to finish up the front end alignment and the rear suspension settings this week and hopefully he can ge to the track within the next two weeks , i will take some pics and post them this week, the black hemi car is still an active ss/ah car , if i am correct jimmy keys has it now,i will check with lou and post that too.
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Old 09-27-2009, 12:27 PM   #97
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The Centolanza Barracuda was originally purchased by a guy in ND sold to someone in NC or SC and unded up in the NE when the Centolanza's bought it. They said when they got it it had a beautiful black paint job and they went and painted it white!
The Street racing 68 cars have been some of the hardest to track. Paul, I belive you mentioned to me some time ago that The Pomona Speed Dart was purchased from some street racers in NJ? I have also heard of a Barracuda (could be the Baptiste car or another that I know of) that was black and had some purple on it called the "Grape Ape". The car was supposedly run out of Carmen Rotunda's shop (not by Carmen). Anyone know anything about this car? This would have been in the early 70's.
Another Street racing car that comes to mind is Richie Sansonia's Barracuda - I don't know if this was an original car but it was a Hemi powered street racer - could this have been the Baptiste car? Bill - Richie was pretty well known and worked at Rockville Center Dodge. I checked with Al Kirchenbaum but he said it was not an original car???? Anyone know anything about this car?

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Old 09-28-2009, 09:39 AM   #98
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MOPAR68,
You are my HERO.
How did you come up with that photo.
My POP'S car. (Really mine first). An original 69 M-Code 440 Cuda.
Built for C/SA back in 1982 or so.
History on car, if you want it.
I actually raced it twice at Dover at the end of 75'.
Unfortunately, as nice as that car was, my fathers heart wasn't really into
drag racing anymore. He let his partner Jerry D race it. My father
didn't like the haul up to Lebanon Valley, where they raced it a few times.
His heart was in hitting 7-irons 150 yards at James Baird Golf Course.
I owe you a dozen Canoli's. The good stuff from Arthur Avenue, not the
fake stuff from the Make-believe bakery's.

M68.. (Thanks for that post, brings back memories of when I drove that
440-Cuda (green originally) on the street. Nothing, and I mean nothing could touch that car.
I have photo's of it, which I will post or can send you.

Paul (I'm Very Happy Today)
Paul, you're too kind. These photos were taken by yours truly in the summer of 1988 or 1989 at Raceway Park. Your name "rung a bell" and I went digging through my collection of photos and my hunch was correct. I did not know the car was an original M-code 440 A-body back then though I knew the car had a big-block Mopar wedge in it. What caught my attention was the color of the car and 1970s-type paint scheme. The only other A-body I recall seeing in Stock Eliminator back in the 1980s was Ernest Topping's convertible 1968('69) Dodge Dart which I believe was an original M-code machine.

"I owe you a dozen Canoli's."

You know, it's been about six years since I've had some of those treats! In fact, it was the first ever time I sampled them. Canoli's with a cup or two of expresso. Momma mia!

"I have photo's of it, which I will post or can send you."

Yes, I'd like to see them. I don't have a scanner but first chance I get access to one I will scan those pix above and make sure you get full-size quality photos for your album.

Best regards,

M68

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Old 09-28-2009, 09:48 AM   #99
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"Another Street racing car that comes to mind is Richie Sansonia's Barracuda - I don't know if this was an original car but it was a Hemi powered street racer - could this have been the Baptiste car? "

There's a picture of "Richie Six Pack's" 'Cuda in one issue of High Performance Cars or Hot Cars, etc. from the early-mid 1970s. The photo in the article showed the front end of the car with its hood off. Without spending hours trying to find it in my collection, what I recall it had a modified look to it. If memory serves me correct since it's been more than a few years since I read that particular issue, it was a 1969 'Cuda--at least its front end was.

George's car, from what I was told, was a very low mileage (i.e. not trashed) pristine original--Richie's was not. It's a real shame he decided to turn it into a race car when a "plain Jane" Slant Six, 318 or even 340 'Cuda would've sufficed.

Oh well...

M68

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Old 09-29-2009, 02:30 AM   #100
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MOPAR68
Don't forget to add a little Sambuca in the Espresso'.
I'll answer all questions in next posting. Yes Mark J, I'll add a little Pomona Speed Shop/Victors Auto Repair in the mix.
I also, heard that through the grapevine that the Centolanza contingent was putting together a 383 Cuda. Glad the "V" family is involved with
helping. Looks like you Jimi are following in your Pop's footsteps.
I still remember all the Mopar stuff he said. He is one Mopar "Brainiac"
Also, found picture of your Pop and Mom, and my father up at Lebanon
Valley, next to the Cuda Coupe. A super Cuda Lady Picture taken by
Jerry D.
Mark J, I think the upstate New York Cuda (possibly the Centolanza car)
as I said earlier was painted white and in A/MP was in a little town
(I'm guessing) was Livingstonville. That was 30 years ago. The guy spent about $250 on Brush Research honing brushes. I still remember.

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