HOME FORUM RULES CONTACT
     
   
   

Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Nostalgia Stock and Super Stock


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-03-2009, 03:08 AM   #281
Paul Ceasrine
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Jason,
Thanks for correcting me. I thought the Kenton was out of Ohio. Though your uncle was a northwest region New York racer, I don't recall ever seeing him at Dover Drag Strip (Wingdale, NY) or New York National, out on Long Island, unless he was there for the 68' S/S Magazine
Nationals, along with Ed Miller (Syracuse). I didn't realize Kenton
was for Ken-Ton. The other Dodge (Hat) sponsor looks like Youngstown Dodge (up there near the border???). You are right about the first paint job. Did your uncle really have to race the car like that. Please don't say he had to wear a white cowboy hat too, at the track for the sponsors
The maroon and black paint job is .
Paul (the Amherst area has the best Wings on the planet.
Paul Ceasrine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-03-2009, 02:19 PM   #282
Mopar Steve
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Castle, PA
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Dick ran the Iron Butterfly in '69. Spehar built the car in '69 for SS/CA from his wife's Slant 6 330. It was to take advantage of a one year only rule change allowing the steel front Hemi car to utilize the fresh air scoop. He didn't build the car though until late in the year. It only ran at a couple national events. Ted and Tina (his wife) both confirmed this at the Hemi Reunion. Car is believed to possibly still be around.
Mopar Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2009, 11:08 AM   #283
68hemiss
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Jason, I think that you are right about running the Dart after the Iron Butterfly. I think Dick told me that being a contract racer he was supposed to race at The U.S. Nats - he blew a motor shortly before and didn't have a good block left. He called Chrysler to explain and they put him it the Butterfly for the race. Interestingly, I have also seen Wally Booth's name on the Butterfly. Wall did have a green Super Bee that he raced also before the RatPack Camaros.
Mark J
68hemiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2009, 11:13 AM   #284
68hemiss
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Crate Camaro,
Frank Elliot's old car - Frank built a clone recently - he sent me some pictures of it. I am not sure if that car ever ran as a S/S (maybe the first owners) Frank always ran it as a M/P and was VERY sucessful with it. Any chance of getting any pictures of it now from Reggie?
Mark J
68hemiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-05-2009, 05:28 PM   #285
Mopar Steve
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Castle, PA
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Quote:
Originally Posted by 68hemiss View Post
Jason, I think that you are right about running the Dart after the Iron Butterfly. I think Dick told me that being a contract racer he was supposed to race at The U.S. Nats - he blew a motor shortly before and didn't have a good block left. He called Chrysler to explain and they put him it the Butterfly for the race. Interestingly, I have also seen Wally Booth's name on the Butterfly. Wall did have a green Super Bee that he raced also before the RatPack Camaros.
Mark J
Dick was in the Iron Butterfly at both Indy and Dallas that year. He scattered a 727 at Indy and was runner up to Sox at Dallas.
Mopar Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2009, 09:22 AM   #286
Hemi Challenger
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Mark J. : We talked at the Hemi Reunion and I was asking you about Dennis Kilbanes 1968 Dart out of Strongsville Ohio. The car had KILBANE DODGE on the side of it. The car was sold from Strongsville, Ohio in around 1971 and never heard from again. Just wondering if you have heard anything about this car yet. Thanks / Gary
Hemi Challenger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2009, 04:40 AM   #287
Paul Ceasrine
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Jason,
That photo of your uncles car looks like August 69', at York/US30, at the
Super Stock Magazine Nationals. The yellow Cougar Eliminator in the
back-ground is a 69'. Charlie Castaldo won the S/S Eliminator there, with his SS/BA car. That would mean, 2 months later that Dart was in the NHRA Finals at Dallas...versus Sox & Martin in the S/S championship run..?
PC
Paul Ceasrine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-07-2009, 11:11 AM   #288
Mopar Steve
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Castle, PA
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine View Post
Jason,
That photo of your uncles car looks like August 69', at York/US30, at the
Super Stock Magazine Nationals. The yellow Cougar Eliminator in the
back-ground is a 69'. Charlie Castaldo won the S/S Eliminator there, with his SS/BA car. That would mean, 2 months later that Dart was in the NHRA Finals at Dallas...versus Sox & Martin in the S/S championship run..?
PC
Paul,

Dick definitely ran the Iron Butterfly at Dallas. Here's a pic of the semi-final run with Ron Mancini and an article with reference to it.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	dallas.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	60.7 KB
ID:	1855  
Mopar Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2009, 06:48 AM   #289
Paul Ceasrine
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Steve,
Then it looks like Dick put the Hemi Dart on the shelf for awhile, after the
8/10/69 Super Stock Magazine Nationals?
If he was campaigning the Dart for the 69' season, How did he get to
run the 64' Dodge at the Finals?
Paul
Paul Ceasrine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2009, 12:21 PM   #290
Mopar Steve
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: New Castle, PA
Posts: 92
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Original hemi dart information

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine View Post
Steve,
Then it looks like Dick put the Hemi Dart on the shelf for awhile, after the
8/10/69 Super Stock Magazine Nationals?
If he was campaigning the Dart for the 69' season, How did he get to
run the 64' Dodge at the Finals?
Paul
Good question, like I said, I know he ran the '64 Dodge at Indy as well. Possibly a few divisional races too, I had never asked about the divisional entries on the car. Note that he is running a Division 1 number.


Last edited by Mopar Steve; 12-08-2009 at 12:25 PM.
Mopar Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.