index bashing - Page 3

Michael Beard · 04-05-2007, 09:04 AM

I'll hang on the fence and watch you make a run any day, Scott! :-D Those runs at MIR last year were phenomenal.

Michael Beard
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J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum - World Record Holder

Scott Gove · 04-05-2007, 11:18 AM

micheal if it will stop snowing up here i plan to be there next weekend. 12" to 18 " today. raking lawn in t-shirt yesterday. see you there?

Dave Ribeiro · 04-05-2007, 11:23 AM

This is where NHRA has created a big problem !!! I agree that anytime you set a record or get the index hit you should be looked at...I don't care who it is or what they run for a car , NO Index or HP adjustment til they have been torn down and found legal !!!! This keeps racing honest for all the other guys who get caught in the middle with Index and HP changes....So if you want to go fast be ready to be torn down and checked as far as gas, scales etc on those runs....This is the only fair way to keep the sport in check, No Adjustments til the car has passed a teardown that day....What does everyone think ??? This has been happening
all along and no-one seems to care or has said anything ????
Doesn't that bother anyone.!!!..Anyway nothing against Arnie, whom I have known for a long time, but we need to stop NHRA throwing around HP + Index changes without teardowns to check out the cars............... This has nothing to do with the people who go fast , but more to do with everyone who gets adjusted HP+ Index
adjustments... just my 2 cents.... Dave...1033/stock

icebrrrg · 04-05-2007, 04:46 PM

Gotta agree with Ray as to the relevance of the index hit. Chances are if you're like 99.99% of the SS field, you are dialing well below the index on race day anyway...so whatever the index is seems to matter little. The only difference would seem to be qualifying position (for what it's worth). Outside of being less likely to make the cut in the prestigious top 16 qualifiers that National Dragster posts in the upper right corner, I don't see why qualifying position would mean anything. To cite a recent example of how little qualifying means, the SS winner at the Orlando LODRS was the 74th qualifier (Jim Harrington) in a 79 car field, while runner up Pierpont only qualified 63rd.

Maybe I'm just missing something about why the index hit would matter. If so, I would appreciate it if somebody from the community would educate me.

John Kelley · 04-05-2007, 05:17 PM

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Maybe I'm just missing something about why the index hit would matter. If so, I would appreciate it if somebody from the community would educate me.

Maybe not making the field at INDY........

icebrrrg · 04-05-2007, 06:02 PM

Thanks John - point well taken. While looking at most cases, I merely left out the biggest race.[:-stong-:]

"Some days it just doesn't pay to gnaw through the restraints."

04-05-2007, 09:04 AM	#21
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts	I'll hang on the fence and watch you make a run any day, Scott! :-D Those runs at MIR last year were phenomenal. Michael Beard Staging Light Graphic Design & Printing Duck Tape/Loctite Racing J/CM '80 Volare 360 Magnum - World Record Holder __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

04-05-2007, 11:18 AM	#22
Scott Gove Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: maine Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	micheal if it will stop snowing up here i plan to be there next weekend. 12" to 18 " today. raking lawn in t-shirt yesterday. see you there? __________________ Scott Gove 1340 SS, 1342 COMP

04-05-2007, 11:23 AM	#23
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	This is where NHRA has created a big problem !!! I agree that anytime you set a record or get the index hit you should be looked at...I don't care who it is or what they run for a car , NO Index or HP adjustment til they have been torn down and found legal !!!! This keeps racing honest for all the other guys who get caught in the middle with Index and HP changes....So if you want to go fast be ready to be torn down and checked as far as gas, scales etc on those runs....This is the only fair way to keep the sport in check, No Adjustments til the car has passed a teardown that day....What does everyone think ??? This has been happening all along and no-one seems to care or has said anything ???? Doesn't that bother anyone.!!!..Anyway nothing against Arnie, whom I have known for a long time, but we need to stop NHRA throwing around HP + Index changes without teardowns to check out the cars............... This has nothing to do with the people who go fast , but more to do with everyone who gets adjusted HP+ Index adjustments... just my 2 cents.... Dave...1033/stock __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

04-05-2007, 04:46 PM	#24
icebrrrg Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 90 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gotta agree with Ray as to the relevance of the index hit. Chances are if you're like 99.99% of the SS field, you are dialing well below the index on race day anyway...so whatever the index is seems to matter little. The only difference would seem to be qualifying position (for what it's worth). Outside of being less likely to make the cut in the prestigious top 16 qualifiers that National Dragster posts in the upper right corner, I don't see why qualifying position would mean anything. To cite a recent example of how little qualifying means, the SS winner at the Orlando LODRS was the 74th qualifier (Jim Harrington) in a 79 car field, while runner up Pierpont only qualified 63rd. Maybe I'm just missing something about why the index hit would matter. If so, I would appreciate it if somebody from the community would educate me.

04-05-2007, 06:02 PM	#26
icebrrrg Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Central Florida Posts: 90 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks John - point well taken. While looking at most cases, I merely left out the biggest race.[:-stong-:] "Some days it just doesn't pay to gnaw through the restraints."