Crate Motor Class

[Myron Piatek]

NHRA isn't "changing" anything!

1) The "Opens" in Div.2 didn't exist before.

2) Most if not all will be 1/8 mile, which many NHRA racers don't like anyway.

3) The series is SEPERATE from NHRA national and divisional points, so that won't affect any racers chasing those.

4) NHRA racers should be happy that they can get grade points there for national events.

5) Some people who are most vocal against the plan are outside of Division 2 anyway. What does it have to do with you? What purpose does the bashing serve besides stirring things up? Don't like it?...Don't go to them. The rest of NHRA hasn't been influenced by crate motors.

A side note - today's NHRA Stocker's are MUCH closer to Crate Motor cars than the class that they started as - Pure Stock!

Right now I have an IHRA Crate and a NHRA Stocker. I'll race both or whichever one I can do well with. I'm thankful for the option.

[Hacksaw]

I find it amusing that there are racers, (NHRA) that think to run a crate motor class that you just buy a engine from the suppler and put it in as is. No need to take it apart or buy any pieces or work on it. Magic.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Cdncarnut

Dan,
The NHRA does not need to do any of the things that you say they need to do.
The NHRA is doing just fine without doing all those things.

The IHRA, which you supported, is not doing well. That is why they changed their format.

Again, someone please explain to me why the NHRA should change anything or accommodate anyone, just because the IHRA changed their format.
Go complain to the IHRA or whatever, but stop trying to justify why the anyone should change the rules to accommodate a bunch of racers who could not make a go of it in their own association.

WHY ?
Because they can and will!

Bet you a Dollar !!

D

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Hacksaw

I find it amusing that there are racers, (NHRA) that think to run a crate motor class that you just buy a engine from the suppler and put it in as is. No need to take it apart or buy any pieces or work on it. Magic.

YEAH because they can.
It is REALLY Nice to Start off with .......BRAND NEW PARTs !!!!!
Racers will go through the engine to make sure all is good.
Add Cam, Intake and Carb and you are off running with the big dogs.
Plus if they meet another same classed car they have to run heads up.
Just like the other Stock Eliminators cars !

$5000 is a lot less than a $10,000+ Stocker Engine.

NHRA has already approving new AFTERMARKET Heads.
Holy Crate Motor Captain Kirk !!
More Di-Lithium Crystals ...Scottie !
But Captain !! ...........Our Communicators will Blow up !!

D

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Add Cam, Intake and Carb and you are off running with the big dogs.

$5000 is a lot less than a $10,000+ Stocker Engine.

I call BS. A "Big Dog" crate motor will cost as much or more as most "Big Dog" production motors.

[racer1442]

Originally Posted by Cdncarnut

The IHRA already has a place for these cars in their new Bracket Racing series.
Why should the NHRA give them another place to race?
By doing so, they have turned the NHRA races into nothing more than IHRA Bracket series.

Go complain to the IHRA or whatever, but stop trying to justify why the anyone should change the rules to accommodate a bunch of racers who could not make a go of it in their own association.

Those are some pretty ignorant remarks considering how many IHRA cars run in the same association as you. Those cars help make the race day payouts, year end payouts as well as the level of competition of the series for the better. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with the matter, you shouldn't be publicly pissing on your fellow racers that you line up with every race. Maybe you should tell some of them in person 3 months from now in the lanes about your thoughts about their cars and where they should be racing.

[Cdncarnut]

Originally Posted by racer1442

Those are some pretty ignorant remarks considering how many IHRA cars run in the same association as you. Those cars help make the race day payouts, year end payouts as well as the level of competition of the series for the better. Doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with the matter, you shouldn't be publicly pissing on your fellow racers that you line up with every race. Maybe you should tell some of them in person 3 months from now in the lanes about your thoughts about their cars and where they should be racing.

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[racer1442]

Originally Posted by Cdncarnut

The CanAm Stock/SuperStock series is not he NHRA nor is it the IHRA, in case you have not noticed.
Their rules are flexible and there is no tech as I have never seen any.
I chose to buy/build an NHRA legal car, which is legal to race in the Can/Am series, as well as the NHRA and IHRA..
From your comments, you may have an IHRA legal car, which is legal to race in Can/Am and the IHRA, but NOT the NHRA.

I have no issue what Fred and the board of directors do with their series and will support them as time and money permit.

I also do not care what the IHRA has done or does going forward.

I do however have an issue with what the NHRA does, as I am a paying member and my opinion is valid.
If you do have an NHRA legal car and a paying member then you do not have an issue.

Thanks for explaining all that and thanks for sending me a PM as well with the same message so I could read all of it again.

Again because you have a hard time understanding, maybe respect your fellow racers instead of flicking your nose at them and saying how useless their car is now just because you aren't effected. Others have stated why they built their cars the way they did including myself. I'm not asking for NHRA to change, I'm asking you to think about your fellow racers that it does. No matter what the cost was, people have still invested time and money into their setups and don't need d ickish remarks how they are just good for bracket racing now. I dont think you would talk like that to a guy that ran Modified when it was dropped and you tell him to just go bracket racing.

[Ed Wright]

The Modified cars were simply moved to Comp.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

The Modified cars were simply moved to Comp.

And Super Stock
And you missed the point Racer was trying to make!