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11-28-2017, 02:32 AM | #491 |
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Re: Crate Motor Class
So you ran a 68 Camaro in Crate motor, and the engine is identical to a NHRA engine, other than the head castings? Piece of cake!! Lift up that cast iron intake manifold and QJet, replace your illegal heads with pair of easy to find GM castings, and away you go!!! Then you can play with all the other 350 68 Camaros in F,G, and H/SA. Good luck!
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Concur ! FWIW I am gathering information focused on reviving the concepts of Pure Stock, Junior Stock and Crate Motor under one Class Structure. If NHRA becomes interested can be merged into existing NHRA Classes Indexes. One of the key elements developing rules are for the newer cars. Would create a Bolt-On Class for Stock. Reviving the Junior Stock for cars using the Blueprinted Cams. Adding CM engines to add to the mix. Use a Max Seat Pressure Spring Rule toning down the cam and add mufflers. Cost effective, reliable, fun. Classes that does not require fragile pitchy super high winding expensive Stocker Engine. That was what Modified Production was suppose to be. Looking at the 2066 and new generation aspirated cars like Chevy SS, Cudas, Darts, Mustangs, Caddys that have V-6's and V-8's. Several racers were trying to get their late model combinations certified by IHRA before the boom. Lot of Stocker guys had the new cars and wanted to race them in Pure Stock. Got calls on it often. The new cars and racers are the cornerstone of the future. Flexibility of being able to use a larger engine in GT or easy to get CM helped IHRA a lot. The new generation of kids are not going to build a $50,000 Stocker. They will buy a new car add headers, gears, converter, slicks, tune. Most are driveway mods and are racing then at the local tracks. These Bolt On Classes were the rage when the LT1 Camaros and B-Bodys came out in the late 90's early 2000. Another sources of cars are PureStockDrags. Have been collaborating with some of the key members. Crate Motor and GT were great ideas to extend Stock. Loved the fact you can pop in a 455 in place of a 305 or 350. Aftermarket industry loved the CM cars. Now producing new Aluminum Replacement Heads based on original castings. Stock Ports, Combustion chamber and screw in studs. I see in the future a new rule coming allowing these Head Replacements and even intake manifolds for Stock. Good original castings are scarce competing against the restoration industry. One other thing and was a very true statement. Most of us are well over 50, 60 and 70 years old. In the next ten years most of us will be making other decisions. Regardless if the new generation of racers are not invited they will look at other venues. You have to market and sell to this generation or they will not come. AND one day Class Racing will become a note in History Books. D |
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11-28-2017, 12:35 PM | #493 |
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Tony (Cratemotor), many of us have to wonder why anybody would build a car that could only run with one association? Why would a person not simply build one that could run with anywhere?
NHRA has so many classes, and cars (compared to IHRA) that why would anybody want to add more classes? And our hard working tech people have to keep up with even more combinations? I have been doing this since 1962, and have now seen both AHRA & IHRA come and go. Both had some "unusual" classes. Logical thing to do would build a car that could run anyplace. Not expect others to make new rules to accommodate your poor choices. You can't just make your car a legal Stocker?
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11-28-2017, 05:41 PM | #495 |
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Dan! I think you nailed it! I've got to start spinning the guts out of my stuff and paying more for it! I'm just having too much fun.
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Sadly, no they won't.
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My new stocker (older car) AA, A or B/A car is being built with an eye toward other classes if I don't want to run in stock only. It can go S/ST, NE, D-gas, brackets etc. and can be easily made street legal. Yea it's going to cost about 50K but that's probably less than a new car (Corvette, Mustang, Challenger) would set you back. |
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11-28-2017, 06:44 PM | #498 |
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Nope. The next generation of kids are spending half that, to race for twice as much.
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