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11-25-2008, 10:50 PM | #1 |
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nitried or cryo
I'am having rocker arm problems. Which has shone results?? Ideas??
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11-25-2008, 11:02 PM | #2 |
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Re: nitried or cryo
Rocker problems on what?
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Re: nitried or cryo
I used to break rocker arms on my FoMoCo 429 stocker every five or six runs, always an intake (2.25" monster). Had a brand new set of NOS rockers and fulcums cyro'ed three years ago, haven't broken one since. Might also be due to increased spring pressure/shubecks/smith pushrods, but it's worth a shot. Your mileage might vary.
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11-26-2008, 09:18 AM | #5 |
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Re: nitried or cryo
Larry, give Jim Bailey a call. www. finishedracing.com He will point you in the right direction.
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11-26-2008, 06:47 PM | #6 |
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Re: nitried or cryo
Crane Nitro Carb rockers cryo'ed.
They have worked very well for me. It's a good idea to run them for 3-400 runs and recycle them. Much like all valve train pieces, they need to be replaced after x amount of runs. Andy Stone B/S 1102 SS/C 1112 |
11-27-2008, 10:33 AM | #7 |
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Re: nitried or cryo
Larry, call Wes McCracken, John Musial, Charlie Weber, Charlie Downing, Chuck Beach, Bob Marshall, Brian Seibenick and see what they have to say. OR save some time and just give me a call. Keep in mind, nitried is a surface treatment. Cryo treats the entire part. Also, not all Cryogenic Processing is created equal. 330-858-1842. JB.
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11-27-2008, 10:54 AM | #8 |
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Re: nitried or cryo
Larry,
We run the stuff from Clark Holroyd, and have since 2006. We bought a complete setup, and have not broken a single rocker since. We are going to finally break down and put a new set of rockers on this Winter. I'm running 265# on the seat, and 550# open pressure. We turn as much as 7800 RPM, and make probably 100-150 passes a year, plus dyno time. Clark's stuff is just plain GM. Are you fully deburring your rockers? Where are they breaking?
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Alan, I've done several sets of Clark's Rockers. They are by far the nicest "stock" rockers that I've seen. Now, send me just one of your rockers. I'll treat it and provide you with a sample to try. It's on the house, what da you have to lose .JB
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Re: nitried or cryo
Jim,
Wouldn't the ultimate solution be to deburr (especially the oil hole), cryo, then shot peen to impart compressive stress? Deburring removes stress risers and small tears. Cryo will stress relieve and improve grain structure. Shot peening will leave the entire outside surface in compression. Nothing fails in compression. Am I thinking correctly? Thanks |
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