If you like guns - Page 2

David Lee · 07-13-2012, 07:20 PM

Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2012, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.

I wonder that if the Bill of Rights and the Constitution can not be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers, why is this administration even discussing or considering this? From what I have read, the administration is all ready to sign off on it! Can he do it by Executive Order as he loves to do when he can't get things past Congress? Jim

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David Lee · 07-15-2012, 11:54 AM

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

Jim Wahl · 07-15-2012, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

I hope you are correct! I am very lacking in knowledge of the Constitution I am sad to say. Jim

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Dick Butler · 07-15-2012, 10:52 PM

Probably to try to limit information as we are approaching a crisis.

Eddies66 · 07-16-2012, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Butler

Probably to try to limit information as we are approaching a crisis.

What crisis are you referring to?

art leong · 07-17-2012, 10:50 AM

All you knowlegeable people. Should look into the Vienna Convention (we are already bound by this). If this treaty is signed.

art leong · 07-17-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by David Lee

No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

But if it is not renounced or voted down we are required to follow it.
Vienna Convention.

Jim Wahl · 07-18-2012, 12:34 AM

If you don't watch anything else this year, you need to watch this! If you think it can't be done then you are a fool! This video is 20 minutes long but when it is done you will not believe what you saw. Everything is fact based and proven in the video. With one command you could lose your second amendment rights, your guns and possibly your life and freedom. Please watch this:

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treessavoy · 07-18-2012, 01:09 AM

I'm sorry Jim, but this guy is full of *****. The document he is misrepresenting was penned at the height of the cold war and never implemented. The document was written to draw Armies down to an equal level on the pretense that it would help avoid war and have the UN or a third party verify.

No where, that I could see, did the document designate civilian weapons but my computer would not down load the whole article so I could be wrong but how are "they" going to get our guns? I ain't giving them mine!

With the millions of weapons in the hands of citizens there would be no way to even find them all much less take them. If it were to actually happen do you think all us rednecks would give them out guns?....pried out of my cold dead hands!

JimR

07-13-2012, 07:20 PM	#11
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,097 Likes: 404 Liked 250 Times in 101 Posts	Re: If you like guns Bill, how ever told you this has given you some false informatiion. The supreme court in 1954 in the case "Reid v. Covert" that the Bill of Rights and constitution cannot be abrogated by agreements with foreign powers.

07-15-2012, 11:54 AM	#13
David Lee VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,097 Likes: 404 Liked 250 Times in 101 Posts	Re: If you like guns No treaty maybe entered into our govt, without the congress approving it by a 2/3 vote and no treaty maybe entered into by executive order.

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Dick Butler VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Richmond Indiana Posts: 1,197 Likes: 5 Liked 32 Times in 19 Posts	Re: If you like guns Probably to try to limit information as we are approaching a crisis.

07-17-2012, 10:50 AM	#17
art leong VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Richmond Hill, Georgia Posts: 2,003 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: If you like guns All you knowlegeable people. Should look into the Vienna Convention (we are already bound by this). If this treaty is signed. __________________ Art Leong 2095 SS

07-18-2012, 12:34 AM	#19
Jim Wahl Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Central Florida Posts: 5,842 Likes: 627 Liked 672 Times in 121 Posts	Re: If you like guns If you don't watch anything else this year, you need to watch this! If you think it can't be done then you are a fool! This video is 20 minutes long but when it is done you will not believe what you saw. Everything is fact based and proven in the video. With one command you could lose your second amendment rights, your guns and possibly your life and freedom. Please watch this: . __________________ Jim Wahl....NHRA #2239 S/SS - IHRA # 8 Stock, D2 Stock Champion (forever I guess) 2019 Baby Gators Stock Champion 2009 D2 National Open Stock Champion 1981 D2 West Palm Beach LDRS SS Runner Up Past President, Southern Stock / Super Stock Association. SSSSA Forum Moderator

07-18-2012, 01:09 AM	#20
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: If you like guns I'm sorry Jim, but this guy is full of *****. The document he is misrepresenting was penned at the height of the cold war and never implemented. The document was written to draw Armies down to an equal level on the pretense that it would help avoid war and have the UN or a third party verify. No where, that I could see, did the document designate civilian weapons but my computer would not down load the whole article so I could be wrong but how are "they" going to get our guns? I ain't giving them mine! With the millions of weapons in the hands of citizens there would be no way to even find them all much less take them. If it were to actually happen do you think all us rednecks would give them out guns?....pried out of my cold dead hands! JimR __________________ Jim Rountree