Could Super Modified been different if?

[SPS]

Well, first, I think Ralph is correct. Many of you have your facts wrong.

Ed Wright has most of the rules correct.

Credit for the class has to go to Rick Voegelin and the Magazine coverage and his car as the first Super Mod car. (Still has it too, I've seen it )

My first year was in '76. Was lured into the class (B/SM) exactly as the rules were laid out. A chance to run in Modified with less knowledge and investment.
Was runner-up at the US Nats. for class to Dempsey Hardy.

In '77, was runner-up again to Arlen Fadely, who went on to win the US Nationals. A great accomplishment in a class only around for 3 years at that point.

Finally won the B/SM class at the '78 US Nats.

Remember, in those days, you didn't win class, you went home.

Arlen Fadely and I were very competitive all those years but good friends to this day.
Good times and a great class.
Worked hard and had fun.

FJ Smith

[Bob Rice]

Not trying to rock the boat but I'm pretty sure that Rickie was in the final with Ian Landies at Suffolk, either '77 or '78. Can't remember if it was the points race or the Little Guy Nationals.
Bob Rice

[blkjack]

Originally Posted by SPS

Finally won the B/SM class at the '78 US Nats.



FJ Smith

and Walt Siler won C/SM
There were 21 C/SM cars at Indy that year.....can you imagine that?

[BlueOval Ralph]

At one point 77 or 78 he tried to run D?MP with 2 4v carbs and 5 Speed with big tires which ever year it was he also showed up at US Nationals but couldn't win Class

Originally Posted by Bob Rice

Not trying to rock the boat but I'm pretty sure that Rickie was in the final with Ian Landies at Suffolk, either '77 or '78. Can't remember if it was the points race or the Little Guy Nationals.
Bob Rice

[Gary Smith]

Move the current /SM cars back to /MP classes, and I agree with '75 and older, similar rules to the old way....A, B, and C (maybe a D class for V-6). No aftermarket heads, transmissions, or ladder bar/4 link suspension. Sticks would be limited to vintage T-10, M-22, A833, or Tremec 5 spds with single disk, non-tuneable clutches. A weak link like these transmissions, and true 10" tires with stock suspension would keep the big horsepower packages in check. Just my opinion.

[BlueOval Ralph]

This post shows how stupid people can be, pull a head on one side to check for porting and check the stroke on the other side--- Why would you do some thing like this but if you have the head off one side and were to check the stroke on all four cylinders the other bank would be the same
pass side---------------drivers side
4----------------------------8
3----------------------------7
2----------------------------6
1----------------------------5
the above chart shows which cylinders are on same journal fo crank just this about this if the Tech guys were not smart enough to figure this out???






Originally Posted by FED 387
Well I had it kinda right hell it was about 30-35 years ago-we pitted next to Vogelin at the Winters first big race for that car---it was basically a car straight from a used car lot with motor/trans/wheels added-only ran Ihra part of one season-we ran M/P anyway and tore down Fadely every chance we got ,more of a harassment kinda thing than actually looking for anything--hell we new he was legal just snooping--we made him take off door upholstery panels /pull a head on one side to check for porting and check the stroke on the other side---

[FED 387]

I agree meant to say Bore not Stroke my apology--Bore sizes could have been different from one side/cylinder to another---ever think of that??? Ive seen and heard of guys that would always P&G the same cylinder never any of the others but ALWAYS the same one---come to find out it was smaller than the other 7-"some" people can figure out very creative ways to get around the rules--big difference in cubes---can make a huge difference in a pounds per cube class---not saying at all that Arlen was cheating NEVER EVER have said that either-- he is a great guy helped lotsa guys while at Oldsmobile---we all knew he was legal they just were messing with him

[BlueOval Ralph]

at 4.060 bore on a small block FORD Boss 302 block it would have been to bore it much bigger!

[doorslammer]

what year did mike edwards race the supermod .


pete boslovitch

[BlueOval Ralph]

Yes bought Fadely's car at the end of season in 1978 went on to win a couple National events and was the Last Modified Elim World Champ also won Quaker State cup same year

Originally Posted by doorslammer

what year did mike edwards race the supermod .


pete boslovitch