NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown - Page 6

JHeath · 03-20-2019, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BG56

BINGO! Those other races with nice purses are what NHRA can't compete with and are losing racers to. Pro Stock is almost irrelevant in the scope of things. FS/XX might be for (fun) but how long will they stick with it for (no) return? Like an old Pro Stock racer and friend says "Want to make a small fortune racing? Start with a Big one!"

That quote about "making a small fortune racing" is stupid,and makes zero sense.If you are starting with a big one, and end up with a small fortune, that means you are not very good with money management., you are NOT MAKING a small fortune !

Billy Nees · 03-20-2019, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JHeath

That quote about "making a small fortune racing" is stupid,and makes zero sense.If you are starting with a big one, and end up with a small fortune, that means you are not very good with money management., you are NOT MAKING a small fortune !

Well Jerry, I guess that you've never heard the old saying "If you want to make a small fortune "doing add your own venture" then start with a large one.
So you have "money managers" taking care of your racing investments?
Must be a 21ST Century thing...

Dan Fahey · 03-20-2019, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Todd Hoven

This has what to do with Factory Showdown racing?

You guys are bewildered about the high cost, $400000 for FS Racer.
Or for that matter any Stocker today.
You give accolades to a person building a Dime Racer.
These Cars are slower than Pure Stockers!
You diss CM and PS even though they are cost effective Stockers.
You all wave your arms up and down how NHRA may kill S/SS.
Because it is a lot more difficult to govern and tech.
There is nothing Stock about our Stockers..
It is SS with a smaller cam and tire now with Solid Lifters.

Now you wish I go away because ....!?

BG56 · 03-20-2019, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JHeath

That quote about "making a small fortune racing" is stupid,and makes zero sense.If you are starting with a big one, and end up with a small fortune, that means you are not very good with money management., you are NOT MAKING a small fortune !

How can someone who races NHRA Stock Eliminator NOT have a sense of humor? smh

dynomo · 03-20-2019, 08:36 AM

I think the big question is why can a guy with a 10,000 dollar bracket car race in any part of the country for 10,000 to 20,000 on just about any weekend with next to no fans and a guy with. 200,000 dollar car racing in front of sold out crowds in a factory supported class is racing for 1500.00...just maybe the racer needs a little bigger slice of the NHRA pie...if your lucky enough to win any class in the biggest racing organization in drag racing NHRA ...it should at least pay your expenses for the weekend when you look at the fact that there are bracket races paying more for one race than NHRA pays for there world championship kinda takes the shine off there championship...Hell street outlaws race for 40,000$ an episode with full tv coverage and they have a fan base and TV ratings...and I know for a fact that those cars can be built a lot cheaper than a factory stock car...Love NHRA racing just think it's time racers get a little slice of the pie

Billy Nees · 03-20-2019, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

Now you wish I go away because ....!?

Because NHRA TRIED "Pure Stock" in the early 70s. It didn't work then and it definitely won't work now. With all of the Tech people they employed back then, they didn't have enough to keep all of the entrants "Pure Stock". It wasn't uncommon to only have a couple of dozen cars in a field and to have the winner and ru DQd. It DID make SS and MP very popular though.
Apparently in the 21ST Century, Racers have "money managers" and "inheritances" and "401Ks" to pick up their racing expenses and they don't care what it costs them to participate.
If you don't want to spend your way in then find a place to hide and build a "Dime Rocket" but Pure Stock ain't happening.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program!

Billy Nees · 03-20-2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dynomo

I think the big question is why can a guy with a 10,000 dollar bracket car race in any part of the country for 10,000 to 20,000 on just about any weekend with next to no fans and a guy with. 200,000 dollar car racing in front of sold out crowds in a factory supported class is racing for 1500.00...
Love NHRA racing just think it's time racers get a little slice of the pie

Because the guy with the 10K Bracket Car is participating in races put on by (basically) small Promoters who are (usually) also Racers.
The NHRA B-O-Ds aren't Racers. They take advantage of the current crop of Racers by "selling" NHRAs historical significance to the "sport" that has now just become a "hobby". The people running the NHRA got "bit" by the greed bug.

Rich Biebel · 03-20-2019, 09:31 AM

The Mayor of NYC recently said.....

There is plenty of money in NYC, it's just in the wrong hands.....

You can just remove "NYC" and insert NHRA and you get your answer as to why people are racing for $1500 with a car and support equipment worth 6 or 7 figures...…

Cause they can, and they want to.....applies to both sides of that coin....

Dan Lattimore · 03-20-2019, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dynomo

i think the big question is why can a guy with a 10,000 dollar bracket car race in any part of the country for 10,000 to 20,000 on just about any weekend with next to no fans and a guy with. 200,000 dollar car racing in front of sold out crowds in a factory supported class is racing for 1500.00...just maybe the racer needs a little bigger slice of the nhra pie...if your lucky enough to win any class in the biggest racing organization in drag racing nhra ...it should at least pay your expenses for the weekend when you look at the fact that there are bracket races paying more for one race than nhra pays for there world championship kinda takes the shine off there championship...hell street outlaws race for 40,000$ an episode with full tv coverage and they have a fan base and tv ratings...and i know for a fact that those cars can be built a lot cheaper than a factory stock car...love nhra racing just think it's time racers get a little slice of the pie

this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Todd Hoven · 03-20-2019, 10:16 AM

I’m not bewildered about anything here. It’s the progression of the sport we play like it or not. This is not a grass roots class. It’s an alternative to pro stock at this point.

Just think you interjected your opinion in the wrong post about something that has nothing to do with what is being discussed here.

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Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

You guys are bewildered about the high cost, $400000 for FS Racer.
Or for that matter any Stocker today.
You give accolades to a person building a Dime Racer.
These Cars are slower than Pure Stockers!
You diss CM and PS even though they are cost effective Stockers.
You all wave your arms up and down how NHRA may kill S/SS.
Because it is a lot more difficult to govern and tech.
There is nothing Stock about our Stockers..
It is SS with a smaller cam and tire now with Solid Lifters.

Now you wish I go away because ....!?

03-20-2019, 08:36 AM	#55
dynomo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 47 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown I think the big question is why can a guy with a 10,000 dollar bracket car race in any part of the country for 10,000 to 20,000 on just about any weekend with next to no fans and a guy with. 200,000 dollar car racing in front of sold out crowds in a factory supported class is racing for 1500.00...just maybe the racer needs a little bigger slice of the NHRA pie...if your lucky enough to win any class in the biggest racing organization in drag racing NHRA ...it should at least pay your expenses for the weekend when you look at the fact that there are bracket races paying more for one race than NHRA pays for there world championship kinda takes the shine off there championship...Hell street outlaws race for 40,000$ an episode with full tv coverage and they have a fan base and TV ratings...and I know for a fact that those cars can be built a lot cheaper than a factory stock car...Love NHRA racing just think it's time racers get a little slice of the pie

03-20-2019, 09:31 AM	#58
Rich Biebel VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Northern New Jersey suburbs Posts: 2,275 Likes: 25 Liked 510 Times in 200 Posts	Re: NHRA "FIXED" Factory Showdown The Mayor of NYC recently said..... There is plenty of money in NYC, it's just in the wrong hands..... You can just remove "NYC" and insert NHRA and you get your answer as to why people are racing for $1500 with a car and support equipment worth 6 or 7 figures...… Cause they can, and they want to.....applies to both sides of that coin.... __________________ Rich Biebel S/C 1479 Last edited by Rich Biebel; 03-20-2019 at 09:46 AM.