neck collar

pro318 · 11-29-2011, 08:51 PM

Do you still have to use a neck collar if you use a head and neck restraint ex. hutchens device??

FED 387 · 11-29-2011, 08:55 PM

NO but it is optional not mandatory---ya need one or the other but check the class rules some classes HANS is MANDATORY

pro318 · 11-29-2011, 09:36 PM

ok thanks. would be running s/gas

voltdr · 11-30-2011, 12:27 AM

If you use a HANS device, you will still need the neck collar, OR a head sock, OR a skirted helmet. It is in the 2012 rules amendments.

FED 387 · 11-30-2011, 12:49 AM

WRONG WRONG!!!!!--- go back and read the rules amendments for 2012 EITHER collar or HANS -- however some classes /some types of vehicles(open/closed) some ET's Some MPH a HANS is required in lieu of a donut-----read it closely!!!!!

Dave Steltz · 11-30-2011, 01:51 PM

If I remember correctly, the mfg'rs of the Hans and Safety Solutions units ( I have the pro-rage) tell you to NOT wear a neck collar with a restraint, it will interfere with proper fit and operation...I know with the rage, I dont see how I could wear the collar and not have it mess with the teathers and release strings...

Also if you wear a restraint, you must have a head sock or helmet skirt...

FED 387 · 11-30-2011, 03:33 PM

the only places I see a skirt or sock required here is for FRONT ENGINE or Supercharged or turbocharged vehicles or in some instances Nitrous cars---be damned if I can find where in the 2012 rule book OR 2012 amendments that with a HANS you MUST use a sock or skirt---please enlighten me where does it say that--I looked thru the rule book for over an hour and I do not see that anywhere---not talking about any Alcohol or Nitro classes either--thanx Comp

voltdr · 11-30-2011, 04:31 PM

I just received an email from NHRA tech, Pat Cvengros, You do not need the neck collar BUT you will need the head sock or skirted helmet.
Here is the email content.

If I decide to use a HANS type device, (not a class requirement) while racing in SG and/or SC.

1. Do I still have to use a neck collar?

2. If no neck collar, do I have to use a head sock or shirted helmet?

Thanks,
Dan Foley

No you would not be required to use a neck collar if you used a head and neck restraint system. You would however need a head sock or skirted helmet.

Pat Cvengros

FED 387 · 11-30-2011, 06:55 PM

You're right finally found it it is under the PROTECTIVE CLOTHING section not in the helmet or neck collar restraint area---

Bill Baer · 11-30-2011, 08:02 PM

I wear a HANS with a helmet skirt.

11-29-2011, 08:51 PM	#1
pro318 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	neck collar Do you still have to use a neck collar if you use a head and neck restraint ex. hutchens device??

11-29-2011, 08:55 PM	#2
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,349 Likes: 326 Liked 280 Times in 150 Posts	Re: neck collar NO but it is optional not mandatory---ya need one or the other but check the class rules some classes HANS is MANDATORY

11-29-2011, 09:36 PM	#3
pro318 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 20 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: neck collar ok thanks. would be running s/gas

11-30-2011, 12:27 AM	#4
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 700 Likes: 77 Liked 87 Times in 47 Posts	Re: neck collar If you use a HANS device, you will still need the neck collar, OR a head sock, OR a skirted helmet. It is in the 2012 rules amendments.

11-30-2011, 12:49 AM	#5
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,349 Likes: 326 Liked 280 Times in 150 Posts	Re: neck collar WRONG WRONG!!!!!--- go back and read the rules amendments for 2012 EITHER collar or HANS -- however some classes /some types of vehicles(open/closed) some ET's Some MPH a HANS is required in lieu of a donut-----read it closely!!!!!

11-30-2011, 01:51 PM	#6
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: neck collar If I remember correctly, the mfg'rs of the Hans and Safety Solutions units ( I have the pro-rage) tell you to NOT wear a neck collar with a restraint, it will interfere with proper fit and operation...I know with the rage, I dont see how I could wear the collar and not have it mess with the teathers and release strings... Also if you wear a restraint, you must have a head sock or helmet skirt... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

11-30-2011, 03:33 PM	#7
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,349 Likes: 326 Liked 280 Times in 150 Posts	Re: neck collar the only places I see a skirt or sock required here is for FRONT ENGINE or Supercharged or turbocharged vehicles or in some instances Nitrous cars---be damned if I can find where in the 2012 rule book OR 2012 amendments that with a HANS you MUST use a sock or skirt---please enlighten me where does it say that--I looked thru the rule book for over an hour and I do not see that anywhere---not talking about any Alcohol or Nitro classes either--thanx Comp

11-30-2011, 04:31 PM	#8
voltdr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 700 Likes: 77 Liked 87 Times in 47 Posts	Re: neck collar I just received an email from NHRA tech, Pat Cvengros, You do not need the neck collar BUT you will need the head sock or skirted helmet. Here is the email content. If I decide to use a HANS type device, (not a class requirement) while racing in SG and/or SC. 1. Do I still have to use a neck collar? 2. If no neck collar, do I have to use a head sock or shirted helmet? Thanks, Dan Foley No you would not be required to use a neck collar if you used a head and neck restraint system. You would however need a head sock or skirted helmet. Pat Cvengros

11-30-2011, 06:55 PM	#9
FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,349 Likes: 326 Liked 280 Times in 150 Posts	Re: neck collar You're right finally found it it is under the PROTECTIVE CLOTHING section not in the helmet or neck collar restraint area---

11-30-2011, 08:02 PM	#10
Bill Baer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nothern IL Posts: 596 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: neck collar I wear a HANS with a helmet skirt. __________________ Bill Baer 3391 SC, 339B SC, QR