Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers - Page 2

69ss/rs · 10-07-2009, 08:36 AM

Treessavoy. take a look at the edelbrock website and find me a combination that isn't covered. As for not making a head for every combo, look at what they did with the Big Block Chevy. They use one head to fit multiple combos by changing valve sizes and combustion chamber sizes. So your argument doesn't hold water.

treessavoy · 10-07-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 69ss/rs

Treessavoy. take a look at the edelbrock website and find me a combination that isn't covered. As for not making a head for every combo, look at what they did with the Big Block Chevy. They use one head to fit multiple combos by changing valve sizes and combustion chamber sizes. So your argument doesn't hold water.

Without looking .....1962/3 Max Wedge, 1964 Max Wedge so I'll just keep holding that water!

JimR

Dick Kirkpatrick · 10-07-2009, 12:33 PM

After spending over $4000 to repair one head for a SBC 255 hp motor, I vote YES

bsa633 · 10-07-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dick Kirkpatrick

After spending over $4000 to repair one head for a SBC 255 hp motor, I vote YES

Dont worry..the Ch.sb. will probably get it anyway...

X-TECH MAN · 10-07-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bsa633

Dont worry..the Ch.sb. will probably get it anyway...

Someone needs to get Edelbrock to reproduce the Max Wedge heads and 383/440 heads ACCURATELY with the CORRECT valve size and C.C's in alum. (along with others) and get NHRA to approve them. Someone went out of their way to do the same for the 428 CJ Fords and 427 Ford FE Medium riser heads and NHRA deemed them legal replacements in STOCK and S/S in the past. The GM Alum head was made a legal replacement for STOCK and S/S even though the exhaust ports are wrong, the intake port is a cross between a square port and an oval port and they came with 11/32 stem valve guides which was a pain to make into 3/8 size. That material was hard as hell to cut or hone. I wont even mention the latest GM intake manifold for big blocks that was made a legal replacement with the plenum cut resembling the L88 intake (also known as the "Grumpy" modification.) So whats wrong with making it fair for the Mopar guys and the AMC, OLDS, BUICK, and Pontiac guys also? As far as you guys bitching about "rules changes" this has been going on for a LONG TIME for the Fords and GM big blocks.

Bob Pagano · 10-07-2009, 03:45 PM

Terry the GM heads have a gm part # I dont know about the fords, if the fords dont then you mite have a case. Also the next question will be can he sell Max heads, or is the market big enough. NSS can run any head so that cuts into that count. I will email and see what kind of response I get.

Mark Callanan · 10-07-2009, 04:11 PM

Is NITROS next??
Come on keep it simple
I know it isnt simple anymore but lets keep it as simple as it can be
This idea isnt a good thig for SS...

Dick Kirkpatrick · 10-07-2009, 05:58 PM

What can be more simple than allowing Edelbrock aluminum replacement heads for all SS cars.

If that were proposed/allowed by n/ihra I am sure Edelbrock would be more than happy to produce the few cylinder heads that are not produced at the present time.

X-TECH MAN · 10-07-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Pagano

Terry the GM heads have a gm part # I dont know about the fords, if the fords dont then you mite have a case. Also the next question will be can he sell Max heads, or is the market big enough. NSS can run any head so that cuts into that count. I will email and see what kind of response I get.

The Ford Edelbrock heads do not have a factory part number. So what if the GM head does have a number......It is NOTHING like the original Chev. alum heads except for the fact it bolts onto a chevy block. I dont really care if they allow alum replacement heads or not myself but it isnt fair to the other brands and family of engines. The thread was started by someone else and its a proven fact that the alum heads are less expensive to modify, and repair when needed. The guys who complain about the alum heads are mostly those who have a stock pile of OEM cast iron heads for Hi Performance engine combos bought back when they were dirt cheap and are keeping them for themself or selling them off for a rip off price. I was just stating "Food for Thought" as it makes no difference to me one way or the other. Most of the original stuff is 40 + years old and the "Well" went dry a long time ago.

69ss/rs · 10-07-2009, 06:01 PM

Mark Callanan, let's not get dumb.Nobody is saying get away from the basic combination. I don't know if you own a SuperStocker, but with us being able to port and polish intake,exhaust ports, along with the combustion chambers what is the difference than the material the head is made from? Like I said before, sink close to 7500.00 into a good set of iron heads and see what it cost to fix it if one or both get hurt as compared to aluminum. I didn't say change carb,compression or any of the original combo. The aluminum heads usually come with the mods that we pay so much to the Head guys to perform.

10-07-2009, 08:36 AM	#11
69ss/rs Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Treessavoy. take a look at the edelbrock website and find me a combination that isn't covered. As for not making a head for every combo, look at what they did with the Big Block Chevy. They use one head to fit multiple combos by changing valve sizes and combustion chamber sizes. So your argument doesn't hold water.

10-07-2009, 12:33 PM	#13
Dick Kirkpatrick Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Carlise, Ontario, Canada Posts: 73 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers After spending over $4000 to repair one head for a SBC 255 hp motor, I vote YES __________________ Dick Kirkpatrick 3033 SS

10-07-2009, 03:45 PM	#16
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 212 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Terry the GM heads have a gm part # I dont know about the fords, if the fords dont then you mite have a case. Also the next question will be can he sell Max heads, or is the market big enough. NSS can run any head so that cuts into that count. I will email and see what kind of response I get. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

10-07-2009, 04:11 PM	#17
Mark Callanan Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: southern maine Posts: 382 Likes: 144 Liked 64 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Is NITROS next?? Come on keep it simple I know it isnt simple anymore but lets keep it as simple as it can be This idea isnt a good thig for SS... __________________ Mark Callanan 1027 STK

10-07-2009, 05:58 PM	#18
Dick Kirkpatrick Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Carlise, Ontario, Canada Posts: 73 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers What can be more simple than allowing Edelbrock aluminum replacement heads for all SS cars. If that were proposed/allowed by n/ihra I am sure Edelbrock would be more than happy to produce the few cylinder heads that are not produced at the present time. __________________ Dick Kirkpatrick 3033 SS

10-07-2009, 06:01 PM	#20
69ss/rs Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Mark Callanan, let's not get dumb.Nobody is saying get away from the basic combination. I don't know if you own a SuperStocker, but with us being able to port and polish intake,exhaust ports, along with the combustion chambers what is the difference than the material the head is made from? Like I said before, sink close to 7500.00 into a good set of iron heads and see what it cost to fix it if one or both get hurt as compared to aluminum. I didn't say change carb,compression or any of the original combo. The aluminum heads usually come with the mods that we pay so much to the Head guys to perform.