Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TECH gu - Page 2

Chuck Beach · 05-01-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Chuck I killed 10mph

That is one bad unit, they still know that you weren't going to be light or use some unapproved fuel, we all know you were planning on trying to beat Pat and if you did you would have scaled and fuel checked .. and it wasn't a heads-up ...

Bruce Noland · 05-01-2012, 11:11 AM

I asked this question many years ago after receiving a horse power "adjustment" and was told that the ahfs does not consider fuel, weight etc. It simply states that a combination will receive a hit if it runs fast enough to trigger the system in any way shape or fashion. I beat on this subject for a long time but the horsepower remained.

dennis dunlap · 05-01-2012, 12:04 PM

Don,t sound right to me charley b. Hell i,m just glad we did,nt have to separate you two AFTER YOU GOT BACK TO THE TRAILER !!!!!

jmcarter · 05-01-2012, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike Carr

I believe the same thing happened a few years ago in Houston at a LODRS. Fred Henson redlighted in round 1, ran 9.89 in A/SA, and got the street Hemi in the B-body (??) hit for it. Never scaled, fuel checked or tore down. Not saying Fred, or Charley, were doing anything fishy, but it's hardly fair to add HP to a combo without checking ANYTHING.

I always felt (and have heard that in some Divisions it does) that any car that gets automatic HP for -1.200 or more should be torn down automatically to insure all is accurate.

Pretty sure Fred's run got the E-body hit so there was a long period before the combo got back on parity with the other "traditional" A cars...agree with you guys 1000%

james schaechter · 05-01-2012, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Charley Downing

Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TECH guys

How can a combo get automatic hp when these things don’t happen after a run?
No fuel check when it’s not mandatory
No scale when it’s not mandatory
No teardown

I am not saying that I would not have passed all these things or that my combo did not need hp. All I am saying what is stopping someone from putting a big inch motor or pulling weight in a car and getting someone else's combo auto HP? Example I barrow some ones 1970 350 camaro run 1.00 under in qualifying and first round I pull out 300 pounds and red light. I run 1.30 and never scale, fuel check or teardown. How mad would greg hill be then?

No scale? Yeah, that might have been a problem, just like last year at Indy Charley. I do find it odd that they didn't tear you down LOL.

I love you man, but I remember when you got HP off the combo in SS, you were gloating about knowing all the answers about this stuff last year.

Mickey Whaley · 05-01-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dennis dunlap

Don,t sound right to me charley b. Hell i,m just glad we did,nt have to separate you two AFTER YOU GOT BACK TO THE TRAILER !!!!!

wow glad they didnt get tangled up on the scales? 1.20 under in bracket mode killing 10 mph or 1.50 under the old index wtf scales, fuel ,piss test ,it dolesn"t matter that bitch needs HP

Greg Hill · 05-01-2012, 04:30 PM

It's only been a few years ago that any automatic hp hit in d3 would be torn down. I remember Tony Goodman going 1.40 under the old indexes and having to tear down. He didn't pass for something small like a couple of thousandths in cam lift. He didn't get hp. Travis I thought that was still in force. That being said, I can't imagine anyone staying Sunday night to tear that thing down.

Tom Moock · 05-01-2012, 06:07 PM

Charley Bob, a few years back, i think it was 2007 a racer at an open in ca. 1980 305 malibu wagon wanted to get a grade point for the next year, didn't have legal motor for car, so he put a 350 motor out his bracket car and ran 1.35 under old index, almost got us hp. I saw the run listed in nitro joe`s stats and called him. Tom

Ed Wright · 05-01-2012, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickey Whaley

wow glad they didnt get tangled up on the scales? 1.20 under in bracket mode killing 10 mph or 1.50 under the old index wtf scales, fuel ,piss test ,it dolesn"t matter that bitch needs HP

There ya go.

Jack McCarthy · 05-01-2012, 07:49 PM

i even agree with chuckles...hell no one ever gets torn down unless its indy or you volunteer with a record. while im sure he woulda passed, still aint right.

and if ya didnt have a hard on to beat lil brother you'd have killed 20mph !

captain

p.s. hows dad doing ?

05-01-2012, 11:11 AM	#12
Bruce Noland VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,855 Likes: 83 Liked 444 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TEC I asked this question many years ago after receiving a horse power "adjustment" and was told that the ahfs does not consider fuel, weight etc. It simply states that a combination will receive a hit if it runs fast enough to trigger the system in any way shape or fashion. I beat on this subject for a long time but the horsepower remained. __________________ Bruce Noland 1788 STK

05-01-2012, 12:04 PM	#13
dennis dunlap Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 221 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TEC Don,t sound right to me charley b. Hell i,m just glad we did,nt have to separate you two AFTER YOU GOT BACK TO THE TRAILER !!!!!

05-01-2012, 04:30 PM	#17
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,994 Likes: 63 Liked 270 Times in 68 Posts	Re: Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TEC It's only been a few years ago that any automatic hp hit in d3 would be torn down. I remember Tony Goodman going 1.40 under the old indexes and having to tear down. He didn't pass for something small like a couple of thousandths in cam lift. He didn't get hp. Travis I thought that was still in force. That being said, I can't imagine anyone staying Sunday night to tear that thing down. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

05-01-2012, 06:07 PM	#18
Tom Moock Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 801 Likes: 1 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TEC Charley Bob, a few years back, i think it was 2007 a racer at an open in ca. 1980 305 malibu wagon wanted to get a grade point for the next year, didn't have legal motor for car, so he put a 350 motor out his bracket car and ran 1.35 under old index, almost got us hp. I saw the run listed in nitro joe`s stats and called him. Tom __________________ Tom Moock 5704 STK

05-01-2012, 07:49 PM	#20
Jack McCarthy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: lyndon ky. ... louisville area Posts: 1,284 Likes: 22 Liked 352 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Just a question for Bruce, Travis, Danny or any NHRA TEC i even agree with chuckles...hell no one ever gets torn down unless its indy or you volunteer with a record. while im sure he woulda passed, still aint right. and if ya didnt have a hard on to beat lil brother you'd have killed 20mph ! captain p.s. hows dad doing ? __________________ Jack McCarthy 3609 STK "the Captain"