Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! - Page 4

Pat6868 · 03-12-2024, 05:39 PM

Anyone using PTFE? If so, care to share results?

1legjerry · 03-12-2024, 06:25 PM

I use XRP. I bought a Fragola fitting once because i heard good things about them I throw it in the trash as soon as I compared it to a XRP.

Angelo DiTocco · 03-12-2024, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat6868

Anyone using PTFE? If so, care to share results?

yes - on all the gauge pressure lines & of course the brake hoses

jmantle · 03-12-2024, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 1320racer

there's nothing to pass up. The customer chose to buy junk made in china because it's cheaper than hose ends and hose made in this country.

Summit sells Aeroquip which is made in the USA.

I've always been a fan of Aeroquip hose with their AQP inner tube but I would be surprised if it's still made in the USA. Aeroquip is owned by Danfoss, a Danish conglomerate who has manufacturing facilities all over the world. You also have to remember hose has a life no matter who makes it. I worked on heavy equipment before i retired and have seen hydraulic hose 10 years old that you couldn't bend and if you did, the inner liner would break up and come out in little pieces.

CMcAllister · 03-12-2024, 08:20 PM

I'm about to give up on the rubber liner stuff and go to the Teflon lined hose for everything.

Someone tell me a down side to it, other than cost.

Steve Sullivan · 03-12-2024, 08:29 PM

"1320 racer" Why the administrator of this website still allows your obnoxious rantings on hear is beyond me.
You're obviously a legend in your own mind. In everybody else's, your an irritating buffoon.

SSDiv6 · 03-12-2024, 08:57 PM

If you want a great braided hose designed for motorsports, that will not collapse, that is compatible with all fuels, retains, and does not permeate or leak fuel vapors, I recommend the Goodridge G-Line XF 811 hose. Due to having a full length Teflon liner, therefore, it requires the use of Goodridge fittings also.

Another option is using general aviation steel braided hoses that meet the requirements of MIL-H-83797 or FAA-TSO C53a, Type A such as Aeroquip 601/AE701 hose and it is compatible with AN and MS fittings. A good source for the Aeroquip hose are stores like Aircraft Spruce.

Both of these hoses do not have a shelf life. There are some MIL-SPEC and SAE spec hoses that have a limited life of 10 years.

1320racer · 03-12-2024, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Sullivan

your obnoxious rantings on hear

nuff said, you're a moron and a hater going back at least 5 years!

I'm here to stay get used to it

My opinions and advice or no less valid than anyone else posting here.

SSDiv6 · 03-12-2024, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jmantle

I've always been a fan of Aeroquip hose with their AQP inner tube but I would be surprised if it's still made in the USA. Aeroquip is owned by Danfoss, a Danish conglomerate who has manufacturing facilities all over the world. You also have to remember hose has a life no matter who makes it. I worked on heavy equipment before i retired and have seen hydraulic hose 10 years old that you couldn't bend and if you did, the inner liner would break up and come out in little pieces.

Danfoss acquired Aeroquip from Eaton and all products are still made 100% in the USA.

Jim Hawkins · 03-12-2024, 09:21 PM

After 45 years working on forklifts I can tell you all rubber lined hose will leak no matter who makes it. I have built thousands of hoses from primarily Aeroquip and Parker. Hose when it breaks down will sweat out the liner or pin holes or in the case of hyd. hose burst if the stainless reinforcement gets compromised.

Having 20 year old fuel hose on a race car is not smart.

PTFE hose seems to me is way less prone to failure than rubber used for fuel.
I have a couple street cars I plumbed with that stuff for fuel and has never leaked after many years and sitting with fuel in them.
Fittings are steel and as such heavier and bigger for industrial applications.
PTFE may not have as tight a bend radius also.
This may not work or have the "look" most want on their race car.
PTFE is also trickier to assemble if you use reusable fittings.

I am replacing the fuel line from front to rear on the race car with PTFE and will never have to do it again. The tight bends under the hood and back at the cell will stay rubber but be replaced periodically.

03-12-2024, 05:39 PM	#31
Pat6868 Junior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 94 Likes: 5 Liked 66 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! Anyone using PTFE? If so, care to share results?

03-12-2024, 06:25 PM	#32
1legjerry Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 68 Likes: 4 Liked 59 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! I use XRP. I bought a Fragola fitting once because i heard good things about them I throw it in the trash as soon as I compared it to a XRP.

03-12-2024, 08:20 PM	#35
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 533 Likes: 9 Liked 746 Times in 206 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! I'm about to give up on the rubber liner stuff and go to the Teflon lined hose for everything. Someone tell me a down side to it, other than cost.

03-12-2024, 08:29 PM	#36
Steve Sullivan Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: West Chester Posts: 64 Likes: 24 Liked 23 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! "1320 racer" Why the administrator of this website still allows your obnoxious rantings on hear is beyond me. You're obviously a legend in your own mind. In everybody else's, your an irritating buffoon.

03-12-2024, 08:57 PM	#37
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 2,991 Likes: 693 Liked 1,457 Times in 543 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! If you want a great braided hose designed for motorsports, that will not collapse, that is compatible with all fuels, retains, and does not permeate or leak fuel vapors, I recommend the Goodridge G-Line XF 811 hose. Due to having a full length Teflon liner, therefore, it requires the use of Goodridge fittings also. Another option is using general aviation steel braided hoses that meet the requirements of MIL-H-83797 or FAA-TSO C53a, Type A such as Aeroquip 601/AE701 hose and it is compatible with AN and MS fittings. A good source for the Aeroquip hose are stores like Aircraft Spruce. Both of these hoses do not have a shelf life. There are some MIL-SPEC and SAE spec hoses that have a limited life of 10 years.

03-12-2024, 09:21 PM	#40
Jim Hawkins Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 186 Likes: 82 Liked 109 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Beware of Summit Branded braided hose!!! After 45 years working on forklifts I can tell you all rubber lined hose will leak no matter who makes it. I have built thousands of hoses from primarily Aeroquip and Parker. Hose when it breaks down will sweat out the liner or pin holes or in the case of hyd. hose burst if the stainless reinforcement gets compromised. Having 20 year old fuel hose on a race car is not smart. PTFE hose seems to me is way less prone to failure than rubber used for fuel. I have a couple street cars I plumbed with that stuff for fuel and has never leaked after many years and sitting with fuel in them. Fittings are steel and as such heavier and bigger for industrial applications. PTFE may not have as tight a bend radius also. This may not work or have the "look" most want on their race car. PTFE is also trickier to assemble if you use reusable fittings. I am replacing the fuel line from front to rear on the race car with PTFE and will never have to do it again. The tight bends under the hood and back at the cell will stay rubber but be replaced periodically.