Windage tray - Page 3

ss3011 · 03-13-2016, 05:06 PM

Hamburger Pans, and I bet Stef's Pans sells pieces of expanded metal screen so you can make your own windage screen . What was interesting is this expanded metal was directional , and acted like thousands of louvers. If you sprayed water at a piece of it in the "wrong direction" the water would bounce back at you. Spray water in the "correct direction" and 99% of the water would pass right through .

V M Kauffman · 03-13-2016, 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=ss3011;498185]Hamburger Pans, and I bet Stef's Pans sells pieces of expanded metal screen so you can make your own windage screen . What was interesting is this expanded metal was directional , and acted like thousands of louvers. If you sprayed water at a piece of it in the "wrong direction" the water would bounce back at you. Spray water in the "correct direction" and 99% of the water would pass right through .[/QUOTE

Water is wrong thing to use when testing oil pans, and windage trays only thing it is good for is testing volume oil clings. In wet sump systems it is VERY HARD to get atray that works better than No tray. Worry about a well fiting scraper and large well baffled box with kick out on passengers side and a good pickup that works and doesn't suck a hole in the oil.To test pick up you must use your actual oil.

Tom Goldman · 03-14-2016, 01:01 PM

I use a Moroso 21604 pan on my BBC which is very similar to the 20370 that is popular on a lot of SS big block Chevy's .
I have two versions of this pan ,one with the diamond screen and an earlier one with a louvered tray.......On the same engine with no other changes the louvered tray pan is good for a solid .070 ET and over 1 mph more. This was realized when I took the louvered pan off my spare engine at a race to replace the damaged pan on my engine in the car.
Ishihara -Johnson http://www.crank-scrapers.com/ is the company in Florida that manufacturers scrapers and trays for just about any engine....I found quite a bit of HP on my AMC Stocker using their stuff.

Ron Gusack · 03-14-2016, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman

I use a Moroso 21604 pan on my BBC which is very similar to the 20370 that is popular on a lot of SS big block Chevy's .
I have two versions of this pan ,one with the diamond screen and an earlier one with a louvered tray.......On the same engine with no other changes the louvered tray pan is good for a solid .070 ET and over 1 mph more. This was realized when I took the louvered pan off my spare engine at a race to replace the damaged pan on my engine in the car.
Ishihara -Johnson http://www.crank-scrapers.com/ is the company in Florida that manufacturers scrapers and trays for just about any engine....I found quite a bit of HP on my AMC Stocker using their stuff.

Tom, was the louvered tray from crankscrapers or was it a Mororso? What rpm range were you in? I've been told that my 7200 rpm's aren't enough to take advantage of a scraper and probably not enough to warrant a tray of any type.

Chevy55 · 03-14-2016, 09:08 PM

Reher-Morrison Racing Engines

New! BBC Moroso Steel Oil Pan #21049
This BBC Steel oil pan is the best we have seen in all our years of building engines.
http://rehermorrison.com/product/wet-sump-system/

On the dyno, it has shown increased horsepower and steady oil pressure throughout the entire RPM range. This BBC Steel oil pan features a built-in windage tray. It is better at controlling windage, but still fits in dragsters and door slammers. To experience the full benefits of this oil pan, it should be used with the new Moroso oil pump (#22187) and pickup. We offer a combo of the pan and the pump with the pickup. To save time and money, you can also buy the complete wet sump kit featuring this excellent oil pan. See our wet sump section for more information.

Download PDF: More information and dyno test results

Tom Goldman · 03-15-2016, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Gusack

Tom, was the louvered tray from crankscrapers or was it a Mororso? What rpm range were you in? I've been told that my 7200 rpm's aren't enough to take advantage of a scraper and probably not enough to warrant a tray of any type.

Ron It was from Moroso . ..I run that engine at 8200 rpm.

03-14-2016, 01:01 PM	#23
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,438 Likes: 780 Liked 703 Times in 206 Posts	Re: Windage tray I use a Moroso 21604 pan on my BBC which is very similar to the 20370 that is popular on a lot of SS big block Chevy's . I have two versions of this pan ,one with the diamond screen and an earlier one with a louvered tray.......On the same engine with no other changes the louvered tray pan is good for a solid .070 ET and over 1 mph more. This was realized when I took the louvered pan off my spare engine at a race to replace the damaged pan on my engine in the car. Ishihara -Johnson http://www.crank-scrapers.com/ is the company in Florida that manufacturers scrapers and trays for just about any engine....I found quite a bit of HP on my AMC Stocker using their stuff. __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

03-14-2016, 09:08 PM	#25
Chevy55 Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 311 Likes: 612 Liked 169 Times in 84 Posts	Re: Windage tray Reher-Morrison Racing Engines New! BBC Moroso Steel Oil Pan #21049 This BBC Steel oil pan is the best we have seen in all our years of building engines. http://rehermorrison.com/product/wet-sump-system/ On the dyno, it has shown increased horsepower and steady oil pressure throughout the entire RPM range. This BBC Steel oil pan features a built-in windage tray. It is better at controlling windage, but still fits in dragsters and door slammers. To experience the full benefits of this oil pan, it should be used with the new Moroso oil pump (#22187) and pickup. We offer a combo of the pan and the pump with the pickup. To save time and money, you can also buy the complete wet sump kit featuring this excellent oil pan. See our wet sump section for more information. Download PDF: More information and dyno test results

03-13-2016, 05:06 PM	#21
ss3011 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Southeast Michigan Posts: 890 Likes: 63 Liked 226 Times in 105 Posts	Re: Windage tray Hamburger Pans, and I bet Stef's Pans sells pieces of expanded metal screen so you can make your own windage screen . What was interesting is this expanded metal was directional , and acted like thousands of louvers. If you sprayed water at a piece of it in the "wrong direction" the water would bounce back at you. Spray water in the "correct direction" and 99% of the water would pass right through .

03-13-2016, 06:20 PM	#22
V M Kauffman Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Greentown, IN Posts: 113 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Windage tray [QUOTE=ss3011;498185]Hamburger Pans, and I bet Stef's Pans sells pieces of expanded metal screen so you can make your own windage screen . What was interesting is this expanded metal was directional , and acted like thousands of louvers. If you sprayed water at a piece of it in the "wrong direction" the water would bounce back at you. Spray water in the "correct direction" and 99% of the water would pass right through .[/QUOTE Water is wrong thing to use when testing oil pans, and windage trays only thing it is good for is testing volume oil clings. In wet sump systems it is VERY HARD to get atray that works better than No tray. Worry about a well fiting scraper and large well baffled box with kick out on passengers side and a good pickup that works and doesn't suck a hole in the oil.To test pick up you must use your actual oil.