clutch and trans info

denbreeden · 10-03-2017, 02:19 PM

Putting a stick in my Drag Pak this winter, who has the best clutch setup? Best transmission? Looking at G-Force for the transmission, any thoughts on this?

Dennis Breeden
FSS/K

Alan Roehrich · 10-03-2017, 07:39 PM

If you want something affordable, reliable, consistent, and easy to work with, a Jerico DR4.4, a McLeod SoftLock, and a QuickTime bellhousing. Might not be the absolute fastest. But it will go rounds, and won't cost you your life savings.

denbreeden · 10-03-2017, 07:44 PM

Thanks Alan, I appreciate the advice. I really don't want something I have to constantly repair. Going to be a challenge I'm sure.

Nmbr1GMfan · 10-03-2017, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

If you want something affordable, reliable, consistent, and easy to work with, a Jerico DR4.4, a McLeod SoftLock, and a QuickTime bellhousing. Might not be the absolute fastest. But it will go rounds, and won't cost you your life savings.

Great advice. Call Cale Aronson at Black Magic Clutches, he can help you with a clutch setup and data. He also has clutch tuning seminars.

Rod Greene · 10-03-2017, 09:22 PM

Rob Youngblood at Advanced Clutches 208-880-6214 nobody better. Great personal service always there to help and answer questions and make your car quicker. Don't believe me ask Bob Gullet.

P.S. you might be surprised at how easy it is to run a clutch car.

james schaechter · 10-03-2017, 09:48 PM

I love the Jerico', but I think the G101 is worth a look as well. It has bearing supports between third and fourth and is strong. The soft locks are good for basic ops. I would say most single ten inch have a big tuning window. I prefer a dual 7 Youngblood. Easy to tune and you can tighten it up so it doesn't wear a lot.

The two things that get newbies in trouble.
1) not having enough clearance between the fingers and the throwout bearing
2) the burnout

Make sure you work out hand signals with a crew person in case you need to abort thre burnout. Make sure the tires have some water on them. Get the rpm up enough to snap the tires loose in the water.
Don't ever shift in the water unless you race a true clutchless trans. i,e. Liberty Equalizer or GF2000 etc.

It is more fun than you can believe! Good Luck!

Dyno · 10-03-2017, 11:33 PM

I have seen more racers have problems with Jerico's this year and also having issues with the new ownership getting parts. The G Force might be a better way to go.

killintime6968 · 10-03-2017, 11:57 PM

Anyone know the weight differences between the jerico and g-force.

Bruce Cameron
68 Nova E/S
68 Camaro SS/I or ?

Larry Hill · 10-04-2017, 08:14 AM

I would talk to Luke and Kevin!

Eric Merryfield · 10-04-2017, 09:07 AM

Get in touch with the other SS stick racers.

For my stocker DP, I went the 3 run old DR4(found one that actually only had 3 runs) and sof lok route for my dragpak. But its a stocker. I kept all the auto stuff just in case I didn't like it, or we couldn't get it to work.

Superstocker to be fast, and if you have to be fast, Best to budget 2X what you think it will cost. Making it fit takes fabrication and time. Fastest stick parts can cost a lot, 2-3 times what the auto does. Up to you how fast you need/want to be. Think Comp cost.

Basics:

First thing first, you will need a racepak with driveshaft sensor, and get the tranny imput sensor install option for whatever tranny you get......

From the seat, driving through the clutch and slipping the tires, can feel exactly the same and gave me the same 60 foots!

Liberty is closest to you in Indiana, and they do some truly bomb proof trannys. Since you will be spending the coin on a 5 speed, I don't see any used libertys ever on the market, Gforce is a good choice too in PA, Jerico, I don't know too much about their 5 speeds. Go visit if you can.

Clutchless versus clutch assisted will be a consideration too, clutchless is faster more $

Bellhousing..... browell aluminum with the adjustment window is in your state. Enough said.

Clutch single versus multi, size, need to figure that out for your bellhousing and how fast you need to be.

Thats a good starting list, others with more knowledge and experience than me will chime in.

Eric

For

10-03-2017, 02:19 PM	#1
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 515 Likes: 159 Liked 77 Times in 34 Posts	clutch and trans info Putting a stick in my Drag Pak this winter, who has the best clutch setup? Best transmission? Looking at G-Force for the transmission, any thoughts on this? Dennis Breeden FSS/K

10-03-2017, 07:39 PM	#2
Alan Roehrich VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Murfreesboro TN Posts: 4,907 Likes: 993 Liked 1,032 Times in 270 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info If you want something affordable, reliable, consistent, and easy to work with, a Jerico DR4.4, a McLeod SoftLock, and a QuickTime bellhousing. Might not be the absolute fastest. But it will go rounds, and won't cost you your life savings. __________________ Alan Roehrich 212A G/S

10-03-2017, 07:44 PM	#3
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 515 Likes: 159 Liked 77 Times in 34 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info Thanks Alan, I appreciate the advice. I really don't want something I have to constantly repair. Going to be a challenge I'm sure.

10-03-2017, 09:22 PM	#5
Rod Greene Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TN Posts: 514 Likes: 355 Liked 204 Times in 72 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info Rob Youngblood at Advanced Clutches 208-880-6214 nobody better. Great personal service always there to help and answer questions and make your car quicker. Don't believe me ask Bob Gullet. P.S. you might be surprised at how easy it is to run a clutch car. __________________ Rod Greene Real men shift for them selves. Slowly working on TA Challenger for D,E/S and a 72 Challenger for SS/K, L as if I don't have enough other projects. Last edited by Rod Greene; 10-03-2017 at 09:33 PM.

10-03-2017, 09:48 PM	#6
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,928 Likes: 1,064 Liked 1,212 Times in 249 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info I love the Jerico', but I think the G101 is worth a look as well. It has bearing supports between third and fourth and is strong. The soft locks are good for basic ops. I would say most single ten inch have a big tuning window. I prefer a dual 7 Youngblood. Easy to tune and you can tighten it up so it doesn't wear a lot. The two things that get newbies in trouble. 1) not having enough clearance between the fingers and the throwout bearing 2) the burnout Make sure you work out hand signals with a crew person in case you need to abort thre burnout. Make sure the tires have some water on them. Get the rpm up enough to snap the tires loose in the water. Don't ever shift in the water unless you race a true clutchless trans. i,e. Liberty Equalizer or GF2000 etc. It is more fun than you can believe! Good Luck! __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

10-03-2017, 11:33 PM	#7
Dyno Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 870 Likes: 916 Liked 604 Times in 177 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info I have seen more racers have problems with Jerico's this year and also having issues with the new ownership getting parts. The G Force might be a better way to go.

10-03-2017, 11:57 PM	#8
killintime6968 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Whitecourt,Alberta,Canada Posts: 226 Likes: 3,765 Liked 41 Times in 24 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info Anyone know the weight differences between the jerico and g-force. Bruce Cameron 68 Nova E/S 68 Camaro SS/I or ?

10-04-2017, 08:14 AM	#9
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,272 Likes: 1,631 Liked 9,422 Times in 1,951 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info I would talk to Luke and Kevin! __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

10-04-2017, 09:07 AM	#10
Eric Merryfield Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 847 Likes: 1 Liked 471 Times in 114 Posts	Re: clutch and trans info Get in touch with the other SS stick racers. For my stocker DP, I went the 3 run old DR4(found one that actually only had 3 runs) and sof lok route for my dragpak. But its a stocker. I kept all the auto stuff just in case I didn't like it, or we couldn't get it to work. Superstocker to be fast, and if you have to be fast, Best to budget 2X what you think it will cost. Making it fit takes fabrication and time. Fastest stick parts can cost a lot, 2-3 times what the auto does. Up to you how fast you need/want to be. Think Comp cost. Basics: First thing first, you will need a racepak with driveshaft sensor, and get the tranny imput sensor install option for whatever tranny you get...... From the seat, driving through the clutch and slipping the tires, can feel exactly the same and gave me the same 60 foots! Liberty is closest to you in Indiana, and they do some truly bomb proof trannys. Since you will be spending the coin on a 5 speed, I don't see any used libertys ever on the market, Gforce is a good choice too in PA, Jerico, I don't know too much about their 5 speeds. Go visit if you can. Clutchless versus clutch assisted will be a consideration too, clutchless is faster more $ Bellhousing..... browell aluminum with the adjustment window is in your state. Enough said. Clutch single versus multi, size, need to figure that out for your bellhousing and how fast you need to be. Thats a good starting list, others with more knowledge and experience than me will chime in. Eric For __________________ Eric Merryfield 1883 STK