Question for the big wheelstand guys - Page 3

05-17-2007, 05:07 PM

Tom,
Give us some data on that 'vair! Awesome car!

NHRA #7494 SS/H
1970 AMC AMX
"Best Appearing" @ NHRA '06 Pacific Sports Nationals
JeffLeeAzRealty@Qwest.net
602-418-9797

TGould · 05-17-2007, 07:08 PM

Jeff, I ordered the car in the fall of 1965. In 1976 , I built the current 95 HP combo from a short block I got from Bob Shaw(I was originally from Columbus. Ohio and at that time Bob lived near Columbus).

It's pretty much a Pure Stocker. Stock suspension, stock Corvair 4spd, stock Corvair rear (4:11 gears), Weber clutch and flywheel (1973) with Hays disc, Lunati pure stock cam (1976) and TRW .060 pistons.

As a 95/100 combo (factored to 100 after Bob won the Sportsnationals with one in 1975) it's a natural 24 pound car. But, with all the weight I can get out it manages to make the middle of V/S.

Tom Gould

Bruce Fulper · 05-17-2007, 10:48 PM

Tom - did you ever run at Dragway 42 back in th' day? I remember two 'vairs that were very impressive, both factory turbo's. One ran low 12's and was Marina blue.

I miss step.

TGould · 05-18-2007, 07:39 AM

Wasn't me Bruce. One of the cars may have been Dick Griffin out of Lansing Michigan. He had a Black 63 Turbo he called the Black Widow that I believe he got into the high 12.0s on occasion and a 64 Turbo convertible that he won J/S with at the 64 Nationals. He may have had others. Word was Dick never raced anything he couldn't drive to the track.

Tom Gould

Tim Barrett · 05-18-2007, 09:17 PM

Brian, My 60 foot average is around 1.47 to 1.49 with my metric 200. As I said my suspension is basicly original. A friend Barry Parker does some wicked wheel stands and that was with the small block in his car. If I remember he had his good motor out for rebuild and he had an old 350 that went 11.8 or 11.9 in H/SA and still got big air. Not sure what his 60' were but the wheel stands were pretty impressive with the weaker motor. Another good friend, Dave LaBrun started big wheelies with his big block Camaro, when he just got little ones before. Its just nice to see these cars going high like Super Stockers on 9 inch tires. I can get 1 foot with mine sometimes, but I know that there is a combo that would require wheelie bars to keep it off the bumper,,,seems like fun. Tim Barrett 1925 H/SA

05-19-2007, 08:51 AM

The more HP you have THE BIGGER THE WHEELIE.

Brian Holcombe · 05-19-2007, 12:26 PM

tim,
email me at speedygoomba@yahoo.com

camaroracer · 05-19-2007, 12:49 PM

Quote:

camaroracer, try moving your front leaf spring mounting point up about 2 inchs higher in the car. Joe.

joe, what if i was building a super stock motor to run in SS/GA with maybe 650 horse. Basically what I'm asking is this good practice for leaf sprung cars period.
Thanks for the info.
David

MKopp5787 · 05-22-2007, 12:12 AM

Well Joe coming from pulling big and far wheelstands many times. The experience I have and will tell you is most important. DON'T LIFT! ! !

Brian Holcombe · 05-22-2007, 03:40 PM

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05-17-2007, 05:07 PM	#21
Jeff Lee Guest Posts: n/a	Tom, Give us some data on that 'vair! Awesome car! NHRA #7494 SS/H 1970 AMC AMX "Best Appearing" @ NHRA '06 Pacific Sports Nationals JeffLeeAzRealty@Qwest.net 602-418-9797

05-17-2007, 07:08 PM	#22
TGould Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaufort,SC Posts: 145 Likes: 15 Liked 31 Times in 6 Posts	Jeff, I ordered the car in the fall of 1965. In 1976 , I built the current 95 HP combo from a short block I got from Bob Shaw(I was originally from Columbus. Ohio and at that time Bob lived near Columbus). It's pretty much a Pure Stocker. Stock suspension, stock Corvair 4spd, stock Corvair rear (4:11 gears), Weber clutch and flywheel (1973) with Hays disc, Lunati pure stock cam (1976) and TRW .060 pistons. As a 95/100 combo (factored to 100 after Bob won the Sportsnationals with one in 1975) it's a natural 24 pound car. But, with all the weight I can get out it manages to make the middle of V/S. Tom Gould

05-17-2007, 10:48 PM	#23
Bruce Fulper Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 651 Likes: 4 Liked 54 Times in 33 Posts	Tom - did you ever run at Dragway 42 back in th' day? I remember two 'vairs that were very impressive, both factory turbo's. One ran low 12's and was Marina blue. I miss step.

05-18-2007, 07:39 AM	#24
TGould Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beaufort,SC Posts: 145 Likes: 15 Liked 31 Times in 6 Posts	Wasn't me Bruce. One of the cars may have been Dick Griffin out of Lansing Michigan. He had a Black 63 Turbo he called the Black Widow that I believe he got into the high 12.0s on occasion and a 64 Turbo convertible that he won J/S with at the 64 Nationals. He may have had others. Word was Dick never raced anything he couldn't drive to the track. Tom Gould

05-18-2007, 09:17 PM	#25
Tim Barrett Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Fort Ann New York State Posts: 126 Likes: 741 Liked 329 Times in 59 Posts	Brian, My 60 foot average is around 1.47 to 1.49 with my metric 200. As I said my suspension is basicly original. A friend Barry Parker does some wicked wheel stands and that was with the small block in his car. If I remember he had his good motor out for rebuild and he had an old 350 that went 11.8 or 11.9 in H/SA and still got big air. Not sure what his 60' were but the wheel stands were pretty impressive with the weaker motor. Another good friend, Dave LaBrun started big wheelies with his big block Camaro, when he just got little ones before. Its just nice to see these cars going high like Super Stockers on 9 inch tires. I can get 1 foot with mine sometimes, but I know that there is a combo that would require wheelie bars to keep it off the bumper,,,seems like fun. Tim Barrett 1925 H/SA

05-19-2007, 08:51 AM	#26
JPERRONE Guest Posts: n/a	The more HP you have THE BIGGER THE WHEELIE.

05-19-2007, 12:26 PM	#27
Brian Holcombe Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hamilton NJ Posts: 68 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	tim, email me at speedygoomba@yahoo.com

05-22-2007, 12:12 AM	#29
MKopp5787 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 95 Likes: 0 Liked 7 Times in 2 Posts	Well Joe coming from pulling big and far wheelstands many times. The experience I have and will tell you is most important. DON'T LIFT! ! !

05-22-2007, 03:40 PM	#30
Brian Holcombe Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hamilton NJ Posts: 68 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you guys need help making your cars hook! contact me: [IMaGe]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/SpeedyGoomba/P1010023.jpg[/IMaGe] [IMaGe]http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c181/SpeedyGoomba/P1010021.jpg[/IMaGe]