Eliminations Question

Marty Buth · 08-09-2020, 08:25 AM

Driver A and driver B are involved in a non heads up round of competition. Driver B is the slower dialed car and red lights. Driver A rightfully gets the winning ET slip. However driver A is found to be 45 pounds light at the scales. Driver B is then asked to scale and found to be legal weight. Which driver should move on to the next round?

KRatcliff · 08-09-2020, 08:28 AM

I believe both are DQ'd. Next round is a competition bye for whoever is on the ladder. I wonder what happens if that was the final round.

The Hawk · 08-09-2020, 08:29 AM

Driver B should be reinstated

1299 · 08-09-2020, 08:36 AM

Driver B red is less of a infraction. Same as if driver A cross center or hit the wall

Jon Sarrett · 08-09-2020, 09:59 AM

This happened to my dad several years ago. He was asked to come to the scales, fuel checked then reinstated.

Adger Smith · 08-09-2020, 10:50 AM

I think it used to be call first or worst infraction is out.
In that case Marty presented both would be out.
I have had it happen to me in Modified at an IHRA race.
Have no idea how it is interpreted these days.

MR DERBY CITY · 08-09-2020, 11:21 AM

Which racer did advance Marty ?

Marty Buth · 08-09-2020, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Which racer did advance Marty ?

I would prefer to keep it hypothetical MJ

DYER · 08-09-2020, 12:20 PM

driver B should have been put back in this should have not even been in question!!! first rule under email tech cards is DRIVER is responseable for all info and saftey eq. !!!!!!!!!

Lenny5160 · 08-09-2020, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith

I think it used to be call first or worst infraction is out.
In that case Marty presented both would be out.
I have had it happen to me in Modified at an IHRA race.
Have no idea how it is interpreted these days.

Two ways to look at it, with Driver B being reinstated in either case.

1. Driver B was red first, but the car being light is worse. The “first” rule only applies to equal infractions, and being light is definitely worse. Driver B advances.

2. Driver A may have scaled light after the run, but he staged a car that was not legal so he was “first” anyway. Driver B advances.

08-09-2020, 08:25 AM	#1
Marty Buth Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Freeport, IL Posts: 457 Likes: 536 Liked 149 Times in 34 Posts	Eliminations Question Driver A and driver B are involved in a non heads up round of competition. Driver B is the slower dialed car and red lights. Driver A rightfully gets the winning ET slip. However driver A is found to be 45 pounds light at the scales. Driver B is then asked to scale and found to be legal weight. Which driver should move on to the next round? __________________ Marty Buth 3657 STK

08-09-2020, 08:28 AM	#2
KRatcliff Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 753 Likes: 74 Liked 502 Times in 135 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question I believe both are DQ'd. Next round is a competition bye for whoever is on the ladder. I wonder what happens if that was the final round.

08-09-2020, 08:29 AM	#3
The Hawk VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Littleton,Colorado Posts: 1,184 Likes: 0 Liked 235 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question Driver B should be reinstated __________________ Lane Weber It`s Not What You Drive That Wins....It`s How You Drive It

08-09-2020, 08:36 AM	#4
1299 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: howell,nj Posts: 116 Likes: 238 Liked 16 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question Driver B red is less of a infraction. Same as if driver A cross center or hit the wall

08-09-2020, 09:59 AM	#5
Jon Sarrett Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sullivan, OH Posts: 302 Likes: 669 Liked 136 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question This happened to my dad several years ago. He was asked to come to the scales, fuel checked then reinstated. __________________ Jon Sarrett Stock 3779

08-09-2020, 10:50 AM	#6
Adger Smith VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Texarkana Ark/TX Posts: 2,348 Likes: 434 Liked 677 Times in 261 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question I think it used to be call first or worst infraction is out. In that case Marty presented both would be out. I have had it happen to me in Modified at an IHRA race. Have no idea how it is interpreted these days. __________________ Adger Smith (Former SS) Last edited by Adger Smith; 08-09-2020 at 10:51 AM. Reason: sp

08-09-2020, 11:21 AM	#7
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,327 Likes: 858 Liked 6,611 Times in 1,289 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question Which racer did advance Marty ?

08-09-2020, 12:20 PM	#9
DYER Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 87 Likes: 226 Liked 181 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Eliminations Question driver B should have been put back in this should have not even been in question!!! first rule under email tech cards is DRIVER is responseable for all info and saftey eq. !!!!!!!!!