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Old 03-21-2012, 09:03 AM   #101
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dwight, were the bellhousing cast iron or aluminum?
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:18 AM   #102
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According to the classification guide, the SC/Rambler shipping weight is 3058. In comparison, the '65 Chevy II SS with a 327 is 2882 and the '66 Chevy II SS is 2917. Considering that the AMC V8 is approx 60 lbs heavier than the SBC and that AMC used a cast iron T10 to GM's aluminum Muncie, the weights seem reasonable and not "adjusted".
Thanks Dwight,,,,,,,,

Just what I remembered, the 1969 SC/Rambler was classed in E/Stock in 1969.

AMC did exaggerate the weight on their specification brochure.
The NHRA adjusted it to #3058 lbs., which was #102 lbs. less.

Performance Results

Car Craft (April 1969)
14.30 @ 99.00 MPH

Car and Driver (May 1969)
14.70 @ 96.30 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Road Test Magazine (June 1969)
14.14 @ 100.44 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Car Life (June 1969)
14.20 @ 98.50 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Speed and Supercar (1969)
13.56 @ 105.39 MPH
Note: Car equipped with 3.91 Gears, Doug Headers, Dual-point Distributor and 7" M & H Slicks.

Super Stock & Drag Illustrated (May 1969)
14.31 @ 98.86 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears)


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Old 03-23-2012, 11:44 AM   #103
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Ed,

The rest of the listed items;

* Color keyed exterior side-view mirrors
* Blacked-out grille
* Black tail-light lenses
* Hood pins
* Hurst SC/Rambler emblems (front fender, trunk deck-lid, glove box)
* 16:1 Quick-ratio manual steering
* Power assisted Bendix brakes
* Front disc-brakes 11.2"

* Dealer Invoice,,,,,,, $2732.95
* MSRP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, $2998.00
* List Price,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, $3665.00

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Old 03-23-2012, 04:00 PM   #104
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dwight, were the bellhousing cast iron or aluminum?
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:05 PM   #105
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* Cast pistons
* Forged connecting-rods w/larger 2.25" journals
* Forged crankshaft
* Special cooling features (Heavy-Duty Radiator)
* Power-Flex Fan
* Fan shroud
* Performance Camshaft (.425 Lift / 265* Duration)
* Hydraulic lifters
* Non-adjustable rocker arms
* Delco-Remy Distributor
* 10 1/2" Clutch-Disc

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Old 03-24-2012, 09:46 AM   #106
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Car Craft, April 1969

A Hurst prepped SC/Rambler ran a 12.92 @ 107.86 MPH

Modifications:
* GoodYear 8.00 x 14" Slicks
* Crane 302H Camshaft (.477 Lift / 302* Duration)
* Crane valve train components (Springs, Retainers and Lifters)
* Competition valve job (3-angle valve job, milled surface and CC'd chambers)
* Edelbrock aluminum dual-plane high-riser intake manifold
* Holley 735 CFM vacuum-secondary carburetor
* Distributor (re-curved and vacuum advance removed)
* Champion N-12Y Spark Plugs
* Doug Headers
* 3.54 Gears


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Old 04-03-2012, 12:19 PM   #107
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I took the average of the 5 road tests you previously posted (omitted the modified test cat with headers, etc.). The average was 14.33 ET. That sounds about right for the day.
I then averaged the MPH's, came out to 98.62.
For fun, I used the formula 1320/MPH = optimum ET. That of course is mainly used on a properly prepared car with tuned traction / suspension / clutch and driver. Obviously these test cars do not fit the bill but this demonstrates what we could do with todays slicks, clutches & suspensions and a fast shifting transmission.
1320 / 98.62 = 13.38 ET! That's a whole second faster "than the day"!

Now with the bolt on parts (cam, headers, intake, carb & slicks; "week #2" modifications), the 12.92 ET @ 107.86 equates to 1320 / 107.86 = 12.24 ET!

So if we could go back in time, we could buy a SC/Rambler for around $3,000 - $3,200 and drop another $500-$600 into it for bolt-ons and run very low 12's. Maybe even hit a high 11 with great air and 4.44 rear gears.
Day #1 (stock) = 14.30's. Day #14 (bot-ons) = 12.20's. Day #21 (gears) = 11.90's.

Not bad!
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Old 04-03-2012, 03:53 PM   #108
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Jeff,

I'll take one....

Readiing back, many articles stated that the conservative Rambler Dealers did not want this 'wild looking car' on the dealer lot, let
alone in the showroom.

I guess that is why Paint Scheme B was put in place, a little more
subtle look.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:02 PM   #109
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I've never liked the SC paint schemes. But the car is pretty bitchin'!
Ken Kier built one a few years ago for a customer to run SS/H that was all white. With that scoop & big slicks sittin' low, it made an awesome looking car. A big name Heni engine builder supposedly built the 390 and it reportedly made 535 HP. That would have made a great chassis a real turd if the numbers are real. And he probably charged the guy some serious coin. It's been passed around a few times, never even going down the track, at least not publicly known. Sure wish I could own it!
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