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Old 03-14-2019, 03:14 PM   #21
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They last time I ran the Keystones, half of the pit area abutting the farm was cordoned off for VIP parking. Looking at NHRA's website, VIP parking was $25 per day. You can fit 4 cars in an average pit space, times 3 days, equals $300 for the weekend. Plus the VIPs buy concessions and souvenirs; they don't have to be teched, weighed, or fuel checked. Sad reality is your pit space is worth more to NHRA as parking. (I was in the last spot along the chain link fence next to the VIP area. The VIPs kept trying to park in my pit spot. My wife had to shoo them away when I was making a run).
Bob,they did the same thing at New England dragways national.they ran out of vip spots so they send them into our area to park were ever they wanted.they made a lot of racers mad.But that doesn't matter.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:24 PM   #22
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If the 200 cars at the points race had gone to a planned S/SS gamblers race at Orlando they could have put that 300.00 entry fee into a kitty and cut up a $ 60,000 pot . Got it done in one or two days and not be treated like fill in second class citizens .
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:22 PM   #23
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Hey guys if you happen to be out early Mike Beard has a big money bracket race at VMP this weekend with great weather expected it will help break up your trip back north!
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:07 PM   #24
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Son John has headed to Mike's VMP race ---- It's like 230.00 for three days 5,000 5,000 10,000 ------------------ We need S/SS gamblers races -- It's time we race for big money before we're all 80.
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---- We need S/SS gamblers races -- It's time we race for big money before we're all 80.
Do we need that or organized Class races? I just got beat in the Class finals at the Baby Gators last week. I still had fun and that trophy had VALUE that a purse can never give. The performance element of what we do is the only reason I show up.
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Like we didn’t see this coming 10-15 years ago? Last national I raced was 2010 swore to never attend another unless it’s indy. I posted on here quite some time ago that all of us as a community should put forth an organization to preserve stock and super stock , with the swipe of a pen Nhra could render everything everyone of is own useless!!!!! It only take one top brass decision make to get rid of us and it all goes away. To be honest I’m really sick of the “Nhra thing” it has lost its luster all around , right from the pros to super street , manufacturers midway and tv show. I have more fun on a Sunday stock super stock race (and first round is not Thursday).
Think I’m going to bolt the mufflers back on the stocker and build a turbo radial tire car.
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Do we need that or organized Class races? I just got beat in the Class finals at the Baby Gators last week. I still had fun and that trophy had VALUE that a purse can never give. The performance element of what we do is the only reason I show up.
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Do we need that or organized Class races? I just got beat in the Class finals at the Baby Gators last week. I still had fun and that trophy had VALUE that a purse can never give. The performance element of what we do is the only reason I show up.
James----I'm 74, When I started racing in 1961 there were no qualified fields. You had to win your class to race in the eliminator. In the mid 60's at Capital raceway It was nothing unusual to have 30-40 cars in your class at every race. I raced for a year and a half before I won my first heads up round. So I understand completely the exhilaration from looking over in the other lane and see your opponent is heads up. I live for that , I was fortunate enough to race in a time when the car in the other lane was Bobby Warren Charlie Taylor Bud Rowe George Duff the list goes on . ------ I don't have all the answers but I think we need organized class races with all the rules we race under in place. Heads up runs , scales etc. with gamblers race option. Everything is the same as any points race we go to but racers put money in a kitty. There were 200 S/SS cars at Gainsville Points race, if every car opted for the gambler option at say 200.00 that would be a side purse of $40,000 to split up any way you want...You're already there so what's another 200 especially if you're one of the 100 sent away. Barry Parker is working on something along these lines for the New England Class Racers Assn. the week before the Div 1 race at LVR in June ---- This will probably be the most money we've ever raced for with all rules in effect. The toughest will be there with I'm sure plenty of heads up races . They consistently get over 100 Stockers and over 100 S/Stockers.-------I'm not the enemy ... NHRA knows the age of class racers and are preparing , most didn't get their AARP card yesterday. It's only a matter of time before they can't do it anymore and start selling off their cars. TO WHO ?? Younger racers that can afford it aren't going to buy John Armstrong's SS/AA for 100,000 plus and run our CCRA race for $1000-$2000 ----- Time to look for more options .
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James----I'm 74, When I started racing in 1961 there were no qualified fields. You had to win your class to race in the eliminator. In the mid 60's at Capital raceway It was nothing unusual to have 30-40 cars in your class at every race. I raced for a year and a half before I won my first heads up round. So I understand completely the exhilaration from looking over in the other lane and see your opponent is heads up. I live for that , I was fortunate enough to race in a time when the car in the other lane was Bobby Warren Charlie Taylor Bud Rowe George Duff the list goes on . ------ I don't have all the answers but I think we need organized class races with all the rules we race under in place. Heads up runs , scales etc. with gamblers race option. Everything is the same as any points race we go to but racers put money in a kitty. There were 200 S/SS cars at Gainsville Points race, if every car opted for the gambler option at say 200.00 that would be a side purse of $40,000 to split up any way you want...You're already there so what's another 200 especially if you're one of the 100 sent away. Barry Parker is working on something along these lines for the New England Class Racers Assn. the week before the Div 1 race at LVR in June ---- This will probably be the most money we've ever raced for with all rules in effect. The toughest will be there with I'm sure plenty of heads up races . They consistently get over 100 Stockers and over 100 S/Stockers.
OK, James is not my name. But, let me offer this up... What if 8 racers showed up at " Grudge Night", put money in the pot and raced "Top/JR Stock" and had a cool trophy/plaque at stakes?
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