super gas woe's

Angelo Verlingo · 06-13-2007, 04:29 AM

hey guys need advise, trying to run super gas , have a 3000 lb vehicle 598 cub motor and a glide. tires are 33 in tall goodyear and currently has a 456 gear . lots of wieght to move of the line please help...

question one: what is the fastest trans brake solenoid.
question two: what size and brand converter.
question three:gear ratio for big mile per hour.

thanks guys any help or advise would be greatly appriciated only have funds to buy just once.... can't afford to due it wrong...

sg1838 · 06-13-2007, 05:23 PM

Nachoooooo,

1. Talk to Kevin Kleinweber at Hughes Performance. He goes by "Calvin" on here.
2. Talk to Kevin Kleinweber at Hughes Performance. It seems like the stuff to beat.
3. I can't say for certain without seeing a dyno sheet for your motor, or at least knowing the RPM at which peak power is made (and the cam that is in the car), but a 4.56 gear sounds about right for a BB. I can simulate it for you using Quarter Jr., or since you have Kevin Kleinweber on the phone, I would ask him as he should be able to give you the correct answer with the above mentioned info (and knowing what converter he is going to build for you).

Hope this helps.

Jason Oldfield
S/G & S/ST 1838

Angelo Verlingo · 06-14-2007, 03:42 AM

thanks jason, will try and call tommorro. any one else with thoughts or ideas..........

06-17-2007, 11:04 PM

You may want to start in Super Street first. A car that big does not hit a .400 tree very well. Sounds like a killer super street car.

Don Higgins
Crew Chief PRO Software and Weather Stations
www.crewchiefpro.com

GaryGoFast · 06-18-2007, 01:39 PM

In D1 , we dont have a .400 tree anymore at any opens or divisionals, car better hit a .370 tree or at least a .470 tree for s/st, i expect to see a lot of the heavier s/g cars coming to s/st.

gary

Angelo Verlingo · 06-18-2007, 11:07 PM

thanks don, and thanks gary. i guess super street is ok at divistionals, however my son wants to run stock or super stock also with another car and our div7 director does not let sst guys run in a second class and get a grade point. seems really stupid since we are using a totally differant car. then the issue with the nationals why only a few of them a year for sst.

thanks nachoooooo

Bryan Gillespie · 06-20-2007, 10:09 PM

Gary stop telling everybody everything!!

Bryan
s/g & s/p 120
s/st & s/c 1219

David 7215 · 06-21-2007, 06:35 PM

nachooo, the reason they limit S/St racers to 1 class is because a lot of the touring S/G guys were coming in and kickin everybodies butt. This was more of an issue back when S/St ran on a 0.4 tree with a 2500 lb minimum. S/St is supposed to be a "starter" class and, they are trying to keep it that way in Div 7. Not sure about other divisions. They only run it at 1 National event in each division so the guys that only race S/St have an opportunity to race a national event.

Angelo Verlingo · 06-21-2007, 09:51 PM

hey david thanks for the info, i guess the super gas guys were using the same car in both classes? i should call mike rice and see if this rule still applies if its a totally different car and another class other than super gas.. thanks nachoooooo. boy really wants to run both at least at the divisional level.

Bryan Gillespie · 06-22-2007, 05:48 PM

Ihra allows s/st(HR) driver to run two classes.but not with same car.I tried

Bryan
Still Looking.

06-13-2007, 04:29 AM	#1
Angelo Verlingo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	super gas woe's hey guys need advise, trying to run super gas , have a 3000 lb vehicle 598 cub motor and a glide. tires are 33 in tall goodyear and currently has a 456 gear . lots of wieght to move of the line please help... question one: what is the fastest trans brake solenoid. question two: what size and brand converter. question three:gear ratio for big mile per hour. thanks guys any help or advise would be greatly appriciated only have funds to buy just once.... can't afford to due it wrong...

06-18-2007, 01:39 PM	#5
GaryGoFast Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Posts: 804 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	In D1 , we dont have a .400 tree anymore at any opens or divisionals, car better hit a .370 tree or at least a .470 tree for s/st, i expect to see a lot of the heavier s/g cars coming to s/st. gary __________________ Gary Federico S/St, S/G 1814

06-13-2007, 05:23 PM	#2
sg1838 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 80 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nachoooooo, 1. Talk to Kevin Kleinweber at Hughes Performance. He goes by "Calvin" on here. 2. Talk to Kevin Kleinweber at Hughes Performance. It seems like the stuff to beat. 3. I can't say for certain without seeing a dyno sheet for your motor, or at least knowing the RPM at which peak power is made (and the cam that is in the car), but a 4.56 gear sounds about right for a BB. I can simulate it for you using Quarter Jr., or since you have Kevin Kleinweber on the phone, I would ask him as he should be able to give you the correct answer with the above mentioned info (and knowing what converter he is going to build for you). Hope this helps. Jason Oldfield S/G & S/ST 1838

06-14-2007, 03:42 AM	#3
Angelo Verlingo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks jason, will try and call tommorro. any one else with thoughts or ideas..........

06-17-2007, 11:04 PM	#4
crewchiefpro Guest Posts: n/a	You may want to start in Super Street first. A car that big does not hit a .400 tree very well. Sounds like a killer super street car. Don Higgins Crew Chief PRO Software and Weather Stations www.crewchiefpro.com

06-18-2007, 11:07 PM	#6
Angelo Verlingo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks don, and thanks gary. i guess super street is ok at divistionals, however my son wants to run stock or super stock also with another car and our div7 director does not let sst guys run in a second class and get a grade point. seems really stupid since we are using a totally differant car. then the issue with the nationals why only a few of them a year for sst. thanks nachoooooo

06-20-2007, 10:09 PM	#7
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Gary stop telling everybody everything!! Bryan s/g & s/p 120 s/st & s/c 1219

06-21-2007, 06:35 PM	#8
David 7215 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pleasanton CA USA Posts: 7 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	nachooo, the reason they limit S/St racers to 1 class is because a lot of the touring S/G guys were coming in and kickin everybodies butt. This was more of an issue back when S/St ran on a 0.4 tree with a 2500 lb minimum. S/St is supposed to be a "starter" class and, they are trying to keep it that way in Div 7. Not sure about other divisions. They only run it at 1 National event in each division so the guys that only race S/St have an opportunity to race a national event.

06-21-2007, 09:51 PM	#9
Angelo Verlingo Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rancho Cucamonga, Ca Posts: 19 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hey david thanks for the info, i guess the super gas guys were using the same car in both classes? i should call mike rice and see if this rule still applies if its a totally different car and another class other than super gas.. thanks nachoooooo. boy really wants to run both at least at the divisional level.

06-22-2007, 05:48 PM	#10
Bryan Gillespie Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 456 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ihra allows s/st(HR) driver to run two classes.but not with same car.I tried Bryan Still Looking.