Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers

69ss/rs · 10-06-2009, 06:09 PM

Why not make aluminum heads legal in all SuperStock classes? I just think that this would be easier for all parties involved. This would be simplier for NHRA to tech, along with racers new heads to work with; instead of 30&40 year old stiff to deal with. You guys tell me (Yes or No)?

Mopar Steve · 10-06-2009, 06:24 PM

Cost. Not everyone can afford to go to the aluminum heads. Those that would have the aluminum would be at a large advantage over those that didn't. There are a variety of technical factors that I really don't even feel like wasting the time to type out.

If you want to run aluminum heads though, switch to a GT class.

X-TECH MAN · 10-06-2009, 07:40 PM

I dont think cost comes into play in this senario when one is talking about $5000 to around $7000 S/S heads. Maybe someone like Dave Layer could shed some light on this? One.....the value of iron heads from collector whores have driven the cost of good cores to work with out of sight for older muscle cars IF you can find them. The labor to port, weld, or repair iron heads would off set any lower cost to start with. I know some are at a disadvantage because an alum head is not avaliable (NHRA legal replacement) compared to the Chevy, and Ford stuff. I know of some stocker guys who would "Kill" for an Alum. replacement head so they could keep up with the competition due to the fact that the AHFS has not done its job. Anyone else??

treessavoy · 10-06-2009, 08:21 PM

To be fair someone would then have to make an exact set of heads for every type of engine in competition.....who's going to do it and who's going to pay for it?

At this point it would only benefit Chevy's and Ford's as they have already gotten the HRA's to accept aftermarket heads, what about the Mopars, Ramblers, Olds, etc?

Just doesn't seem feasible.

JimR

bill dedman · 10-06-2009, 08:22 PM

Nope, Terry; you said it a lot better than I was gonna... Thanks.

CrateCamaro · 10-07-2009, 12:57 AM

I dont see why not. Hit it with some HP untill someone like Edelbrock has every brand covered (they probably already do). Finding cores is almost next to impossible and you need 3 sets to make one good set. It would definitly make repair easier and also would be cheaper to weld up the exaust/intake ports rather than epoxy in the intake (and hope it stays there) and brass in the exaust. Super stock heads are like your mothers 50 years old china...touch it the wrong way and its in 40 pieces...break it and its non fixable. But then again all the 'old school' super stock guys would never go for this even though it would modernise the class and make it way more affordable for yongsters to race in an "entry level" class.

PS...isnt there a cast iron Dart head that is accepted as a replacement casting for SBC super stock already?

Charley Downing · 10-07-2009, 07:22 AM

Hell why we are at it lets give everyone a Holley 1150. You people are just flat stupid (***** clowns and Jackoffs apply in this case). Sorry the truth needs to be told sometimes.

If you want all that kind of crap on you make believe STK or SS car run IHRA crate motor of some IHRA alphabet class.

10-06-2009, 06:09 PM	#1
69ss/rs Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 82 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Why not make aluminum heads legal in all SuperStock classes? I just think that this would be easier for all parties involved. This would be simplier for NHRA to tech, along with racers new heads to work with; instead of 30&40 year old stiff to deal with. You guys tell me (Yes or No)?

10-06-2009, 06:24 PM	#2
Mopar Steve Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 92 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Cost. Not everyone can afford to go to the aluminum heads. Those that would have the aluminum would be at a large advantage over those that didn't. There are a variety of technical factors that I really don't even feel like wasting the time to type out. If you want to run aluminum heads though, switch to a GT class.

10-06-2009, 07:40 PM	#3
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers I dont think cost comes into play in this senario when one is talking about $5000 to around $7000 S/S heads. Maybe someone like Dave Layer could shed some light on this? One.....the value of iron heads from collector whores have driven the cost of good cores to work with out of sight for older muscle cars IF you can find them. The labor to port, weld, or repair iron heads would off set any lower cost to start with. I know some are at a disadvantage because an alum head is not avaliable (NHRA legal replacement) compared to the Chevy, and Ford stuff. I know of some stocker guys who would "Kill" for an Alum. replacement head so they could keep up with the competition due to the fact that the AHFS has not done its job. Anyone else??

10-06-2009, 08:21 PM	#4
treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers To be fair someone would then have to make an exact set of heads for every type of engine in competition.....who's going to do it and who's going to pay for it? At this point it would only benefit Chevy's and Ford's as they have already gotten the HRA's to accept aftermarket heads, what about the Mopars, Ramblers, Olds, etc? Just doesn't seem feasible. JimR __________________ Jim Rountree

10-06-2009, 08:22 PM	#5
bill dedman VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Conway, AR Posts: 1,739 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Nope, Terry; you said it a lot better than I was gonna... Thanks. __________________ Bill

10-07-2009, 12:57 AM	#6
CrateCamaro Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 411 Likes: 1 Liked 19 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers I dont see why not. Hit it with some HP untill someone like Edelbrock has every brand covered (they probably already do). Finding cores is almost next to impossible and you need 3 sets to make one good set. It would definitly make repair easier and also would be cheaper to weld up the exaust/intake ports rather than epoxy in the intake (and hope it stays there) and brass in the exaust. Super stock heads are like your mothers 50 years old china...touch it the wrong way and its in 40 pieces...break it and its non fixable. But then again all the 'old school' super stock guys would never go for this even though it would modernise the class and make it way more affordable for yongsters to race in an "entry level" class. PS...isnt there a cast iron Dart head that is accepted as a replacement casting for SBC super stock already? __________________ Tony Valerio 1968 Camaro 1700 IHRA H/CM 1701 NHRA SS/?A

10-07-2009, 07:22 AM	#7
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 759 Likes: 16 Liked 625 Times in 86 Posts	Re: Making Aluminum Heads Legal for all SuperStockers Hell why we are at it lets give everyone a Holley 1150. You people are just flat stupid (***** clowns and Jackoffs apply in this case). Sorry the truth needs to be told sometimes. If you want all that kind of crap on you make believe STK or SS car run IHRA crate motor of some IHRA alphabet class. __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 10-07-2009 at 07:25 AM.