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Re: Indy Class ...Enhanced !
Mr.Bailey brings up a great point here. One , I feel should be addressed through the SRC.
Now, I promise this will be the last post here, from me, about the Ff f fords. I was asked a question here, and I had to research it through an unimpeachable source. I believe this is what Mr.Gump was fishing for: In 1997 , a new clause was added to the rule book, to allow special run, small batches of factory promotional toys to be allowed to run in Stock. Shortly thereafter, the 1993 Cobra R was entered into the class guide. I think I know who may have asked for it but it is irrelevant here. The Cobra R combo was built in house, using various hi-po parts and deletions, @ 107 units there of. It had a VIN, was emissions legal, and was delivered through Ford dealers. Yes, you had to have a drag racing associated I.D. to purchase one. Ff f forward to 2008, 50th anniversary of the original Cobra Jets. Fifty units were completed by Gapp and Roush. Unavailable to the public engine combo, roll cage, safety bell housing, spool and axles, etc. No VIN, not sold to the public through dealers, etc. You know the drill. Mopar then followed suit, and then GM with the COPO's. We'll never know who's palm was crossed with what, today, but I believe this was the beginning of the non-stock Stockers. It's a real stretch to try to bring it back to 1997, in my opinion. I'd suggest , for those who want to comment further on the FX cars, start a new thread or bring back an old one from the archives. Over...
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I know when and what changed. My point was that no rule change was needed to add the factory cars. The racers themselves pushed for everything that opened the door. Way back when Dale's site was the place to be I voiced my objections to many of those changes and received the same kind of replies that I have gotten on here. Since I purchased my first COPO we have received the gift of roller rockers, any valve spring, and solid lifters. If asked, I would have said no to all three. But, I wasn't asked. All that does is drive up costs. If you want to talk bogus I have a 1988 Cutlass that never had a VIN. It started at 138 HP and is now at 207 HP!! Brett, Is that the car that Beaver had for a while? |
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Yes, I know about the no VIN cars. I drove a couple of them. They were pilot cars off the front of the line that were used for test purposes. I mentioned that only for comparison's sake..Cobra R vs. 2008 CJ's, etc. Enough with this hijack, okay?
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Lets start with the big mouth part first. You didn't come over to me at Gainesville. We were in the lanes getting ready to run class and we had a candid conversation about the way we felt about these cars with no vitriol from either one of us. You certainly didn't have your little chest all pumped out at the time and I'm surprised to read your creative account of our discussion. As I remember our race didn't go so well for you. The solid rear ends were allowed in Corvettes because as an axle ripped through the fiberglass floor or a Corvette while racing and destroyed a racers arm. So, yes safety is important. I like the dime rockets, they were production cars and don't represent institutional cheating by the OEM's. On the other hand you represent all that is bad about this sport. Buying your way in with a bogus car and trying to blow smoke about it when we all know the truth. The rules do not have to change when a system is corrupted by the OEM's. I'll be at Indy. Maybe we can visit in the lanes again.
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….Wow … I'll be at Indy too. As a spectator. I was just hoping to see the classes, run as classes, during class eliminations.... I'm getting old, just trying to make things less complicated...…. Maybe next year, ( if I can get doctor clearance ), I can be part of this madness... Then again, not sure I want too.
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So one of the manufacturers greased one (or all) of the NHRA board members. So what, it's not like it hasn't happened before. Let us get back to the subject of Class at Indy!
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ill do my best if the COMET shows up on time ill try to find the R/SA guys and follow them out ...
figure T/SA gremlin guy is bringing his dragpak instead seeya thursday guys > im sure another HP gifted FFFord is gonna beat me again, but hey why should i complain as this thread shows us NHRA dont care about rules or fairness just that $360 the181 of us ponied up (thats $65,160 if you are counting, i am) !!!
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