NHRA Stikes Again................ - Page 7

bill7947 · 09-28-2016, 07:21 PM

9 spots were left today for stock entries at the NHRA World Finals for drivers with a grade of 4. The nine spots were gone in less than 10 minutes this morning. In addition, for the first time ever, I was unable to enter the second Las Vegas race, and I had a grade of 4. I started thinking, what am I doing?? It costs $415 to get my wife and I into an NHRA National Event, even though we never sit in the stands or watch any of the racing. If I make it to the semi finals, I get $500, so unless I make it to the final round, the best I can hope for is an $85.00 pay day or worse. After the disappointment of missing class racing at the second Las Vegas race, after I won the combo automatic class at the April LV race, I decided to save my $415 and also skip the NHRA World Finals, which is 35 miles from my house!! The $415 will pay the entry fees to a lot of other non-NHRA races next year.

mopargilley · 10-02-2016, 11:12 PM

In my case it was my own fault I did't get entered in the Vegas nationals (i have 6 grade points) I tried to enter 6 weeks early and it was full my bad. I will continue to check daily but probably not gona happen will need 7 to drop out. I did sign up for the finals and will be at the Vegas divisionals (one rainout). Not NHRA's fault in my case.

Ron Ortiz · 10-03-2016, 09:24 AM

mopargilley, listen to what you are saying. "(i have 6 grade points) I tried to enter 6 weeks early and it was full my bad." NOT YOUR BAD. NHRA's bad, you have 6 points and you have to enter 6 weeks early and cannot get in. That is total BS. $415.00 to get in, race fuel at $11.00+ 4 days out of potential income, food and drink for the four days, parked in obscure areas, just goes on and on.

Been away for a year now and I'm starting to question myself about coming back. For $415.00 I can have a very nice time with my wife over a weekend.

And what about the fuel to get there and back.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA $$$$$$$$$$$$$

goinbroke2 · 10-03-2016, 11:31 AM

Ron, it's called "Stockholm's syndrome"

"Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors."

novassdude · 10-03-2016, 03:01 PM

Everyone keeps complaining about class racing dying. How NHRA is evil. And they do everything wrong.
Let’s look at the facts They can do whatever they want charge as much as they wish and the customers fight to show up and spend their money. At least on a national event level they must be doing all the right things. Or there wouldn’t be people on here begging for spots to get in and spend their money. If you charge enough you don’t need large numbers. I would rather deal with 50 cars at $415 than 128 cars at $162

Now don’t get me wrong I agree that NHRA is evil and could do a lot of things better for the sportsman racers. But as long as they are turning away racers there is no reason for them to change.

Mike Pearson · 10-03-2016, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by novassdude

Everyone keeps complaining about class racing dying. How NHRA is evil. And they do everything wrong.
Let’s look at the facts They can do whatever they want charge as much as they wish and the customers fight to show up and spend their money. At least on a national event level they must be doing all the right things. Or there wouldn’t be people on here begging for spots to get in and spend their money. If you charge enough you don’t need large numbers. I would rather deal with 50 cars at $415 than 128 cars at $162

Now don’t get me wrong I agree that NHRA is evil and could do a lot of things better for the sportsman racers. But as long as they are turning away racers there is no reason for them to change.

That is not the way to grow the sport. The way they are doing it now will kill the present class structure as it is now. There will be no incentive to run the divisionals if you cant enter a national event with less than 5-6 grade points. The sportsman quotas are just too low. The problem is not with the sportsman racers it is with the way the events are run and the poor use of time by NHRA. It should not take as long as it does to run the classes especially the pros.

novassdude · 10-03-2016, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

That is not the way to grow the sport. The way they are doing it now will kill the present class structure as it is now. There will be no incentive to run the divisionals if you cant enter a national event with less than 5-6 grade points. The sportsman quotas are just too low. The problem is not with the sportsman racers it is with the way the events are run and the poor use of time by NHRA. It should not take as long as it does to run the classes especially the pros.

I don't disagree but I don't think the people in Glendora care if they grow the sportsmen classes. At this point they get more wanting in than they want so they have no incentive to change, that is the only point I was making.

Casey Miles · 10-03-2016, 06:08 PM

The problem that I have, is that NHRA keeps taking insurance money from me and I have had no incidents and after the event I don't get any reimbursement on the insurance. Why do all racers have to keep paying for insurance at every National event? At Indy it was $100. for the insurance and Gators it was $40. up above the entry fee. If NHRA wants to have you take an policy out to cover any issue they should offer a yearly insurance police with a rebate at the end of the year if no claims against you, like safe driver.
I figured everyone else was bitching, I'd join in!!!!

Casey Miles
248H Stock

Bob Mulry · 10-06-2016, 07:47 PM

So let me see if I have this right........................

Texas has an entry quota of 430 sportsman, of which 80 are Top Sportsman & Dragster for a total of 350 spots for the other classes............

Las Vegas has an entry quota of 328 sportsman, of which 28 are Pro-Mod for a total of 300 spots for the other classes..........

Why will NHRA not work with the Class Racers to allow them to race or is it just a Division 7 thing????????????????????

NHRA never fails to amaze me with their stupidity......

Bob

pfordamx · 10-08-2016, 02:14 PM

Out of curiosity what does a divisional cost to enter and what do the payouts look like?

09-28-2016, 07:21 PM	#61
bill7947 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 22 Likes: 11 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ 9 spots were left today for stock entries at the NHRA World Finals for drivers with a grade of 4. The nine spots were gone in less than 10 minutes this morning. In addition, for the first time ever, I was unable to enter the second Las Vegas race, and I had a grade of 4. I started thinking, what am I doing?? It costs $415 to get my wife and I into an NHRA National Event, even though we never sit in the stands or watch any of the racing. If I make it to the semi finals, I get $500, so unless I make it to the final round, the best I can hope for is an $85.00 pay day or worse. After the disappointment of missing class racing at the second Las Vegas race, after I won the combo automatic class at the April LV race, I decided to save my $415 and also skip the NHRA World Finals, which is 35 miles from my house!! The $415 will pay the entry fees to a lot of other non-NHRA races next year.

10-02-2016, 11:12 PM	#62
mopargilley Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Likes: 35 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ In my case it was my own fault I did't get entered in the Vegas nationals (i have 6 grade points) I tried to enter 6 weeks early and it was full my bad. I will continue to check daily but probably not gona happen will need 7 to drop out. I did sign up for the finals and will be at the Vegas divisionals (one rainout). Not NHRA's fault in my case.

10-03-2016, 09:24 AM	#63
Ron Ortiz Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Englewood, Florida Posts: 962 Likes: 28 Liked 255 Times in 87 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ mopargilley, listen to what you are saying. "(i have 6 grade points) I tried to enter 6 weeks early and it was full my bad." NOT YOUR BAD. NHRA's bad, you have 6 points and you have to enter 6 weeks early and cannot get in. That is total BS. $415.00 to get in, race fuel at $11.00+ 4 days out of potential income, food and drink for the four days, parked in obscure areas, just goes on and on. Been away for a year now and I'm starting to question myself about coming back. For $415.00 I can have a very nice time with my wife over a weekend. And what about the fuel to get there and back. Ron Ortiz U/SA $$$$$$$$$$$$$ __________________ Ron Ortiz 2102 STK

10-03-2016, 11:31 AM	#64
goinbroke2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NS CANADA Posts: 706 Likes: 589 Liked 174 Times in 60 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ Ron, it's called "Stockholm's syndrome" "Stockholm syndrome, or capture-bonding, is a psychological phenomenon described in 1973 in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending and identifying with the captors."

10-03-2016, 03:01 PM	#65
novassdude Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: usa Posts: 746 Likes: 203 Liked 133 Times in 49 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ Everyone keeps complaining about class racing dying. How NHRA is evil. And they do everything wrong. Let’s look at the facts They can do whatever they want charge as much as they wish and the customers fight to show up and spend their money. At least on a national event level they must be doing all the right things. Or there wouldn’t be people on here begging for spots to get in and spend their money. If you charge enough you don’t need large numbers. I would rather deal with 50 cars at $415 than 128 cars at $162 Now don’t get me wrong I agree that NHRA is evil and could do a lot of things better for the sportsman racers. But as long as they are turning away racers there is no reason for them to change.

10-03-2016, 06:08 PM	#68
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 692 Likes: 119 Liked 445 Times in 83 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ The problem that I have, is that NHRA keeps taking insurance money from me and I have had no incidents and after the event I don't get any reimbursement on the insurance. Why do all racers have to keep paying for insurance at every National event? At Indy it was $100. for the insurance and Gators it was $40. up above the entry fee. If NHRA wants to have you take an policy out to cover any issue they should offer a yearly insurance police with a rebate at the end of the year if no claims against you, like safe driver. I figured everyone else was bitching, I'd join in!!!! Casey Miles 248H Stock

10-06-2016, 07:47 PM	#69
Bob Mulry VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Coarsegold, CA Posts: 1,017 Likes: 57 Liked 321 Times in 101 Posts	Re: NHRA Strikes Again................ So let me see if I have this right........................ Texas has an entry quota of 430 sportsman, of which 80 are Top Sportsman & Dragster for a total of 350 spots for the other classes............ Las Vegas has an entry quota of 328 sportsman, of which 28 are Pro-Mod for a total of 300 spots for the other classes.......... Why will NHRA not work with the Class Racers to allow them to race or is it just a Division 7 thing???????????????????? NHRA never fails to amaze me with their stupidity...... Bob __________________ Bob Mulry 7516 STK A & M Motorsports

10-08-2016, 02:14 PM	#70
pfordamx Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Oklahoma City, OK Posts: 214 Likes: 3 Liked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: NHRA Stikes Again................ Out of curiosity what does a divisional cost to enter and what do the payouts look like?