SBC stocker oil pans - Page 2

Dave Goob Cook · 11-27-2008, 02:07 AM

Larry, I think the semi-circular tray actually works more like a wiper than a screen type, in a space that doesn't give ya much.

I did have a Milodon or Summers Bros. semi-circular expanded metal windage tray that worked well with a dragster pan and wiper. It was vintage mid '80's , haven't seen one like it lately. It got hurt I think.

I've been using a B&B pan on my bracket ride that has a side "catch/wiper" that could be adapted in a stocker pan, with a trapped sump, but I don't feel it is as effective as the Z-28 setup I used to run.

With the B&B, 1/2 quart of oil in the pan from 6 1/2 to 7 costs me .04 in E.T., indicating without further investigation that the B&B pan isn't great without the semi-circular tray which I did run with it for a while. I don't gain ET as the B&B gets to 6 quarts or under, it's just that 1/2 that brings it to full that gets me.

The Corvette tray is flat and not as close.

Myron Piatek · 11-27-2008, 09:41 AM

I started using pan rail mounted crank scrapers on my engines this year. Using studs for the oil pan helps assembly and alignment. I wasn't able to do any back-to-back comparisons, but the design appears to be beneficial. They have scrapers as well as windage screens for most engines, including small block Chevy.

http://www.crank-scrapers.com/Chevrolet.html

Tom Turner · 11-29-2008, 07:38 PM

While in oil pan mode with my LT1, I fooled around (key word here being "fool") with scrapers and learned that a pan rail scraper that has no kickout into which oil can be scraped is pretty ineffective. It makes a lot more sense to put the scraper in the lower side or bottom of the pan so the oil has a place to go. The Corvette has a lot more room in the front of the pan so there is room for a full length scraper and screen; not sure what the F-body guys should do but as I understand the current rules; crossmembers can be modified to allow pan removal so that opens a window for a more desireable OE pan. By the way, Alan is correct about "welding" on stocker pans; not legal! I had Stef's do a couple of pans for me; pretty good quality, nothing visable from the outside, reasonable price, seem to work well. I think that the oil pan is a good place to look for parasitic HP losses but within the confines of a stock pan, you run out of options pretty fast.

Todd Bailey · 11-29-2008, 11:22 PM

Tom,

You have a PM.

Matt Moran · 11-30-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragsinger

Soon I will need a SBC stocker oil pan. Let me know about some options.
Thanks

If your application is for I.H.R.A. Crate Motor ? Then any aftermarket oil pan can be used.Modification to the sump area only.No side kickout.B&B worked for me.Seven quart pan with 5 quarts in picked up,but pressure fluctuates under braking.Five and a half in solved that.

11-27-2008, 02:07 AM	#11
Dave Goob Cook Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indy Posts: 422 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SBC stocker oil pans Larry, I think the semi-circular tray actually works more like a wiper than a screen type, in a space that doesn't give ya much. I did have a Milodon or Summers Bros. semi-circular expanded metal windage tray that worked well with a dragster pan and wiper. It was vintage mid '80's , haven't seen one like it lately. It got hurt I think. I've been using a B&B pan on my bracket ride that has a side "catch/wiper" that could be adapted in a stocker pan, with a trapped sump, but I don't feel it is as effective as the Z-28 setup I used to run. With the B&B, 1/2 quart of oil in the pan from 6 1/2 to 7 costs me .04 in E.T., indicating without further investigation that the B&B pan isn't great without the semi-circular tray which I did run with it for a while. I don't gain ET as the B&B gets to 6 quarts or under, it's just that 1/2 that brings it to full that gets me. The Corvette tray is flat and not as close. __________________ "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook NHRA N375 Last edited by Dave Goob Cook; 11-27-2008 at 02:09 AM.

11-27-2008, 09:41 AM	#12
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,538 Likes: 34 Liked 132 Times in 48 Posts	Re: SBC stocker oil pans I started using pan rail mounted crank scrapers on my engines this year. Using studs for the oil pan helps assembly and alignment. I wasn't able to do any back-to-back comparisons, but the design appears to be beneficial. They have scrapers as well as windage screens for most engines, including small block Chevy. http://www.crank-scrapers.com/Chevrolet.html __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

11-29-2008, 07:38 PM	#13
Tom Turner Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Lake Tapps, Washington Posts: 137 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: SBC stocker oil pans While in oil pan mode with my LT1, I fooled around (key word here being "fool") with scrapers and learned that a pan rail scraper that has no kickout into which oil can be scraped is pretty ineffective. It makes a lot more sense to put the scraper in the lower side or bottom of the pan so the oil has a place to go. The Corvette has a lot more room in the front of the pan so there is room for a full length scraper and screen; not sure what the F-body guys should do but as I understand the current rules; crossmembers can be modified to allow pan removal so that opens a window for a more desireable OE pan. By the way, Alan is correct about "welding" on stocker pans; not legal! I had Stef's do a couple of pans for me; pretty good quality, nothing visable from the outside, reasonable price, seem to work well. I think that the oil pan is a good place to look for parasitic HP losses but within the confines of a stock pan, you run out of options pretty fast.

11-29-2008, 11:22 PM	#14
Todd Bailey Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Houston Posts: 302 Likes: 24 Liked 28 Times in 14 Posts	Re: SBC stocker oil pans Tom, You have a PM.