Ken Keir wheelie bars

[40Coupe]

Anyone running his single bar on a first gen Camaro? If so how well does it work? Also, any pictures of the setup?

Thanks!

[race watcher]

Running 1 wheel for 7 years no problem. They do need to be tuned.

[1320racer]

Garret, you really want a wheelie bar?

You should be able to tune your wheelies by tightening the front shock extension and adding travel.

http://www.classracer.com/classforum...t=36346&page=3

[40Coupe]

Not really a want but more of a need at this point. The bars would offer a margin of safety which I don't currently have.

If the surface is well prepped I can do as you say and tighten things down and everything goes to plan.

In order to hook on a marginal track I've got to set the front shocks full loose and full travel, then it goes bumper. If I begin taking travel out or tightening the rebound it starts blowing them off.

I don't see an obvious downside to bars.

[Ian Hill]

i run Ken's bar. it works well. the installation is an obvious breeze as there is no welding required. i found that you have to make sure the spot welds holding the diff tubes in have to be ground smooth. i find that the higher the wheel stand, the quicker my run. As sson as i run the bar i lose .1. i set it so it just misses the rear valance (i know cause i have the dents to prove it!), for every inch i lower it i lose .06 to .1. i have run as quick as 1.33 60 ft and i am not having any spin or unloading issues through the launch.


last time i checked, he had some good photos on his site.

http://kenkeirracecars.com/


Ian
1968 Camaro
F/CM

[40Coupe]

Originally Posted by Ian Hill

i run Ken's bar. it works well. the installation is an obvious breeze as there is no welding required. i found that you have to make sure the spot welds holding the diff tubes in have to be ground smooth. i find that the higher the wheel stand, the quicker my run. As sson as i run the bar i lose .1. i set it so it just misses the rear valance (i know cause i have the dents to prove it!), for every inch i lower it i lose .06 to .1. i have run as quick as 1.33 60 ft and i am not having any spin or unloading issues through the launch.


last time i checked, he had some good photos on his site.

http://kenkeirracecars.com/


Ian
1968 Camaro
F/CM

I appreciate the info.

[1320racer]

my good friend with the green small block '69 Camaro could put it on the bumper every pass if he wanted. He doesn't though, rather he tunes the wheelie to weather and track conditions. He doesn't have any weight in the trunk just a chassis/suspension that works nor does he have a wheelie bar.

I'm just informing you that you CAN control/calm the wheelie with what you have as well you can swap in stiffer springs and/or ballast up front.

If you want a wheelie bar go for it.

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by 40Coupe

In order to hook on a marginal track I've got to set the front shocks full loose and full travel, then it goes bumper. I don't see an obvious downside to bars.

Does it really go on the bumper?

Whose shocks are you running?

FYI, I've run my Firebird without the wheelie bars using only the DA Afco's and travel limiters to control the wheelie.

You could always add ballast up front also

I just don't see the need on your car and I like relatively quick real street cars.

[40Coupe]

Afco DA's front and rear.

[1320racer]

looks perfect to me. and you've got the right shocks. So if you can't calm the wheelie down by tightening the extension and adjusting travel limiters, just put 30 lbs. on the nose and it's done.

Maybe put the stock battery back up front does the trick.