Can We Un-ring The Bell

Larry Hill · 12-26-2021, 11:11 AM

What rules in your opinion should be rescinded?

I'll start.

Oversize camshaft journal diameter. If its not on the check list it should be for stock.

J.R. Haddad · 12-26-2021, 12:10 PM

Larry, my wish would be if we don't see a re-alignment of the recent AHFS
change, that it is modified to Mineshaft -95, Horsepower Adjustment-95.
That way they align as before, Mineshaft -85, HP Adjustment -85.

J.R.

B Parker · 12-26-2021, 01:21 PM

Hi Larry I hope you and Patsy had a great Christmas. I'm not sure how the big journal cams came about. Did the engine shops started using them along with roller bearings. And then tec decided no more roller bearings but the large journal cam were ok. As you know there are a lot of them out there including mine. To make them illegal after they have been used and accepted for so long would make a lot of expensive blocks junk. If they were to do this it should be one of those rules that they say in the year 2023 they are no longer accepted. I for one am in favor of them for several reasons. Can your car not use one? Barry

Billy Nees · 12-26-2021, 01:27 PM

I'd like to see them go back to no data loggers can be connected during eliminations AND NO GRIDS! I'd ALSO like to see Tech arbitrarily swapping out Racers ignition boxes.

Barry Polley · 12-26-2021, 01:57 PM

Un-Ring like ; return Under factory power back to factory power?

Not faulting anyone , System is at fault.

GTS340 · 12-26-2021, 02:03 PM

Superseded parts and aftermarket aluminum heads.

Paul Haszlauer
C/SA 7019

Larry Hill · 12-26-2021, 02:08 PM

I dont know if my block will accept the larger cam I never saw the need to try it. Trust me I have had a few cam related failures but never ran out of protentional solution to try according to published rule book.

If we are going to swap boxes in staging they need to bring a timing light and 1/2''open end wench.

The oversize ID blocks could be sleeved, mechanically locked in place, and then remachined to OEM size. A stock size cam would be pounds lighter than the 60 MM cam. My DP has a big cam and it's poundy.

Larry Hill · 12-26-2021, 02:16 PM

B Parker now we have fun racing against each other. Your quicker but you can't be real late and get the win. Thats what makes it fun.

Billy Nees · 12-26-2021, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

If we are going to swap boxes in staging they need to bring a timing light and 1/2''open end wench.

It doesn't need to be done in the staging lanes, it can be done in your pit space. They're numbered.

Glenn Briglio · 12-26-2021, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

It doesn't need to be done in the staging lanes, it can be done in your pit space. They're numbered.

Ok cool I can get a new ignition box

12-26-2021, 11:11 AM	#1
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,284 Likes: 1,637 Liked 9,458 Times in 1,958 Posts	Can We Un-ring The Bell What rules in your opinion should be rescinded? I'll start. Oversize camshaft journal diameter. If its not on the check list it should be for stock. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

12-26-2021, 12:10 PM	#2
J.R. Haddad Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 625 Likes: 517 Liked 879 Times in 196 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell Larry, my wish would be if we don't see a re-alignment of the recent AHFS change, that it is modified to Mineshaft -95, Horsepower Adjustment-95. That way they align as before, Mineshaft -85, HP Adjustment -85. J.R.

12-26-2021, 01:21 PM	#3
B Parker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 835 Likes: 921 Liked 2,314 Times in 455 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell Hi Larry I hope you and Patsy had a great Christmas. I'm not sure how the big journal cams came about. Did the engine shops started using them along with roller bearings. And then tec decided no more roller bearings but the large journal cam were ok. As you know there are a lot of them out there including mine. To make them illegal after they have been used and accepted for so long would make a lot of expensive blocks junk. If they were to do this it should be one of those rules that they say in the year 2023 they are no longer accepted. I for one am in favor of them for several reasons. Can your car not use one? Barry Last edited by B Parker; 12-28-2021 at 11:04 PM.

12-26-2021, 01:27 PM	#4
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,223 Likes: 3,103 Liked 6,791 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell I'd like to see them go back to no data loggers can be connected during eliminations AND NO GRIDS! I'd ALSO like to see Tech arbitrarily swapping out Racers ignition boxes. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS World's greatest Under-Achiever!

12-26-2021, 01:57 PM	#5
Barry Polley Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vacaville Ca Posts: 743 Likes: 652 Liked 555 Times in 230 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell Un-Ring like ; return Under factory power back to factory power? Not faulting anyone , System is at fault. __________________ Barry Polley 758 A/SA California- No place to race! Last edited by Barry Polley; 12-26-2021 at 02:02 PM.

12-26-2021, 02:03 PM	#6
GTS340 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Las Vegas, Nv Posts: 747 Likes: 183 Liked 1,069 Times in 334 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell Superseded parts and aftermarket aluminum heads. Paul Haszlauer C/SA 7019

12-26-2021, 02:08 PM	#7
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,284 Likes: 1,637 Liked 9,458 Times in 1,958 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell I dont know if my block will accept the larger cam I never saw the need to try it. Trust me I have had a few cam related failures but never ran out of protentional solution to try according to published rule book. If we are going to swap boxes in staging they need to bring a timing light and 1/2''open end wench. The oversize ID blocks could be sleeved, mechanically locked in place, and then remachined to OEM size. A stock size cam would be pounds lighter than the 60 MM cam. My DP has a big cam and it's poundy. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817

12-26-2021, 02:16 PM	#8
Larry Hill Live Reporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hickory, Ky Posts: 10,284 Likes: 1,637 Liked 9,458 Times in 1,958 Posts	Re: Can We Un-ring The Bell B Parker now we have fun racing against each other. Your quicker but you can't be real late and get the win. Thats what makes it fun. __________________ IHM Used Parts https://ihmusedparts.com 888-821-1817