New AHFS - Page 3

Glenn Briglio · 12-22-2021, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

2020 was an abbreviated schedule, lower car count, and didn't make mineshaft. 2019 ,18, 17 would have made it easily ,@ .95 under.
Without flat out conditions, I doubt you'll see it at Indy.

#65 qualified at .855 under Indy 2020.

Albert Lee · 12-22-2021, 01:17 PM

Like NHRA, there are very few heads up runs but there is a curve ball: you can't go more than a tenth faster than the quicker car qualified in a heads up.

Love vs tolerate comes to mind.

jmantle · 12-22-2021, 02:24 PM

Personally I think mineshaft should be weather related before it is placed into effect. Low temp, low humidity and high Barometer should be the trigger along with stiff tail wind.[/QUOTE]

So if the DA is less than the actual elevation of the track it's mineshaft?

Ray Gottry · 12-22-2021, 02:38 PM

Duane you have a PM.

Mark Yacavone · 12-22-2021, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn Briglio

#65 qualified at .855 under Indy 2020.

Yes.Let me clarify.
I should have spelled out what I meant.
2020 would not have met the new - .95 requirement, even though it was still a flat out deal. ;-)

1347 · 12-22-2021, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albert Lee

Like NHRA, there are very few heads up runs but there is a curve ball: you can't go more than a tenth faster than the quicker car qualified in a heads up
Love vs tolerate comes to mind.

So you work on your performance based class to have your car capable of running 1+ seconds under, you have a heads up and the #1 qualifier was .89 under. You ice, thin oil and all the other stops and run 1.10 all out, maybe because you had a worse light. What happens then? You lose? Or maybe you both run more than a .10 under?

jmcarter · 12-22-2021, 06:11 PM

Think Al needs to clarify, never heard of this “curve ball”, in fact it sounds more like a screw ball or knuckle ball.

GUMP · 12-22-2021, 06:48 PM

The NMCA gives points for qualifying position. They WANT our cars to go fast!

The .10 rule allows for ice, etc. (If you didn't do that during qualifying)

Albert Lee · 12-22-2021, 07:49 PM

Clarifying "curve ball" heads up.

Car A qualifies 105 under, Car B qualifies 75 under. If heads up, both boards read 115 under and normal breakout rules apply.

Just the messenger!

AC

Bill Bogues · 12-22-2021, 08:14 PM

I'm a little bit confused; how can you break out on a heads up run?

12-22-2021, 01:17 PM	#22
Albert Lee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 252 Likes: 97 Liked 269 Times in 48 Posts	Re: New AHFS Like NHRA, there are very few heads up runs but there is a curve ball: you can't go more than a tenth faster than the quicker car qualified in a heads up. Love vs tolerate comes to mind. Last edited by Albert Lee; 12-22-2021 at 03:36 PM.

12-22-2021, 02:24 PM	#23
jmantle Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Black Creek, BC Canada Posts: 312 Likes: 62 Liked 137 Times in 67 Posts	Re: New AHFS Personally I think mineshaft should be weather related before it is placed into effect. Low temp, low humidity and high Barometer should be the trigger along with stiff tail wind.[/QUOTE] So if the DA is less than the actual elevation of the track it's mineshaft? __________________ Jim Mantle V/SA 6632

12-22-2021, 02:38 PM	#24
Ray Gottry Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Lake City, Fl. Posts: 55 Likes: 95 Liked 53 Times in 21 Posts	Re: New AHFS Duane you have a PM.

12-22-2021, 06:11 PM	#27
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,122 Likes: 1,978 Liked 2,707 Times in 853 Posts	Re: New AHFS Think Al needs to clarify, never heard of this “curve ball”, in fact it sounds more like a screw ball or knuckle ball. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

12-22-2021, 06:48 PM	#28
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,665 Likes: 1,709 Liked 1,732 Times in 418 Posts	Re: New AHFS The NMCA gives points for qualifying position. They WANT our cars to go fast! The .10 rule allows for ice, etc. (If you didn't do that during qualifying) __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

12-22-2021, 07:49 PM	#29
Albert Lee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 252 Likes: 97 Liked 269 Times in 48 Posts	Re: New AHFS Clarifying "curve ball" heads up. Car A qualifies 105 under, Car B qualifies 75 under. If heads up, both boards read 115 under and normal breakout rules apply. Just the messenger! AC

12-22-2021, 08:14 PM	#30
Bill Bogues Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bethany La. Posts: 318 Likes: 83 Liked 169 Times in 52 Posts	Re: New AHFS I'm a little bit confused; how can you break out on a heads up run? __________________ Bill Bogues 4696 STK