New AHFS

GUMP · 12-21-2021, 11:48 PM

So, who's going to test the new system first?

SSDiv6 · 12-22-2021, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

So, who's going to test the new system first?

Terry Cain · 12-22-2021, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

So, who's going to test the new system first?

You do it. I'll watch.

GUMP · 12-22-2021, 08:15 AM

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You do it. I'll watch.

It looks like we will never see "mineshaft" again. Obviously, this is a drastic change. I can't see where it doesn't penalize hard work.

Someone from the NHRA needs to explain how this won't have the opposite effect on the data base.

These are performance based classes, where's the incentive to go fast? Lonnie??

South Georgia will be interesting.....

james schaechter · 12-22-2021, 09:03 AM

There are different ways to make changes, positive ways that reward people with incentive and then there are the NHRA ways. I could see this as part of a solution in concert with more rewards for performance, but NHRA execs chose only the punitive side. Unfortunately, it appears that the bean counters still rule NHRA. No racer input needed.

Nmbr1GMfan · 12-22-2021, 09:24 AM

"Data collected through the NHRA Live timing data base (including 660 foot elapsed time and 1000 foot elapsed time comparisons) will be utilized to verify if adjustments are needed".

SSDiv6 · 12-22-2021, 09:29 AM

Since the inception of the Stock and Super Stock classes, the classes have been always considered a performance class. I believe that in the old Farmer and subsequent days, although not perfect, the adjustment system was fair.

How about heads-up runs? The current rule does not exempt heads-ups runs. The only exception is as follows: "No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review."

My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!

GUMP · 12-22-2021, 09:44 AM

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My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!

As they are planning to watch the incrementals, I can't see that as an option.

Whoever wrote these changes obviously didn't do their homework!

denbreeden · 12-22-2021, 10:08 AM

NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.

Glenn Briglio · 12-22-2021, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

It looks like we will never see "mineshaft" again. Obviously, this is a drastic change. I can't see where it doesn't penalize hard work.

Someone from the NHRA needs to explain how this won't have the opposite effect on the data base.

These are performance based classes, where's the incentive to go fast? Lonnie??

South Georgia will be interesting.....

Indy will be mineshaft. After that doubtful

12-21-2021, 11:48 PM	#1
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,665 Likes: 1,709 Liked 1,732 Times in 418 Posts	New AHFS So, who's going to test the new system first? __________________ Daren Poole-Adams NHRA Stock/SS 2007

12-22-2021, 09:03 AM	#5
james schaechter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cumming GA Posts: 1,928 Likes: 1,072 Liked 1,212 Times in 249 Posts	Re: New AHFS There are different ways to make changes, positive ways that reward people with incentive and then there are the NHRA ways. I could see this as part of a solution in concert with more rewards for performance, but NHRA execs chose only the punitive side. Unfortunately, it appears that the bean counters still rule NHRA. No racer input needed. __________________ James Schaechter 3163 STK

12-22-2021, 09:24 AM	#6
Nmbr1GMfan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,766 Likes: 1,197 Liked 1,957 Times in 492 Posts	Re: New AHFS "Data collected through the NHRA Live timing data base (including 660 foot elapsed time and 1000 foot elapsed time comparisons) will be utilized to verify if adjustments are needed". __________________ Todd Greene

12-22-2021, 09:29 AM	#7
SSDiv6 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glendale, Arizona Posts: 2,991 Likes: 693 Liked 1,457 Times in 543 Posts	Re: New AHFS Since the inception of the Stock and Super Stock classes, the classes have been always considered a performance class. I believe that in the old Farmer and subsequent days, although not perfect, the adjustment system was fair. How about heads-up runs? The current rule does not exempt heads-ups runs. The only exception is as follows: "No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review." My hope is that this new rule does not create a hazard due to top end accidents when fast guys slam on their brakes trying to slow down their cars!

12-22-2021, 10:08 AM	#9
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 515 Likes: 159 Liked 77 Times in 34 Posts	Re: New AHFS NMCA is the place to be, granted it doesn’t help the racers out west.