What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

[Paul Ceasrine]

It looks like the term Junior Stocker changed from year-to-year.
1966 D/Stock and up
1967 C/Stock and up
1968 F/Stock and up.
1969 G/Stock and up
1970 H/Stock and up
Seems like a 67' 302 Z-28 doesn't fit the bill as a Junior Stocker.but a 67' 327/275HP Camaro would.
PC

[Ed Wright]

We all ran together, so I'm not sure about those break points. At the time I think most considered Jr Stock as non-super Stock. That's how I remember it, but I'm old.

[Paul Ceasrine]

Ed,
I think the last race that NHRA designated for Jr. Stock was the
66' World Finals.
In 63' it was at the Winternationals and Nationals.
In 64' only at the Nationals
In 65' All four major events had Jr. Stock Champion.
In 66' All four major events had it.
In 1967, it was changed to Stock Champion.
By all rights, in 1968 NHRA should have had a Top Stock class.
Classes A/S thru D/S (8.00-9.99 wt/hp), including AA/S
(7.50-7.99 wt/hp) for the Street Hemi, the very lightweight 62' Dodge/Plymouth 413/420HP, 63' Dodge/Plymouth 426/425HP and 64' Dodge/Plymouth 426/425HP steel body cars.
The 63' Dodge/Plymouth 426/415HP and 64' Dodge/Plymouth 426/415HP steel body cars in A/S.
* All Mopar aluminum cars should have been in Super/Stock only.
1966 327/350HP Chevy II Nova SS in B/S, along with the 66'/67' Chevelle 396/375HP cars
The Vette's should have been classed; 68' Vette with the 427/400HP in A/S, 67' Vette 427/400HP in A/S, 66' Vette 427/390HP in A/S, and the 66' Vette 427/425HP in AA/S.
And E/S thru I/S (10.00-12.49 wt/hp) for Middle Stock.
Junior Stock would start with the appropriate letter "J", for classes
12.50 wth/hp and above.
PC

[Tom Goldman]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Yep....When NHRA made all of the neat ole Jr. stockers become Super Stockers it was the end as us old timers know it. Some things were for the better such as a 9 inch slick instead of the 7 inchers and trimming the tires every few runs but when they changed the cam and valve spring rule in 1985 that was the last nail on the coffin.

I still have a scar from when the Stanley "cheese grater" hit me on
the head while shaving the tires on my Uncles' '62 Plymouth wagon at E-town !! ...Talk about dangerous practices!! ..............The muffler deal was something too, 12" Thrush hanging from the back!.............Tom

[Paul Ceasrine]

Yes,
Going back, very bizarre requirements.
Making the muffler system (attached), part of Stock Class.
How many mufflers and exhaust pipe systems went flying out from under the car. That rule should have been canned for safety purposes alone.
Exhaust pipes, mufflers and tail-pipes should have been optional, not mandatory.
Understanding, if your race car was your daily driver, how easy would it
have been, to un-bolt a set of 'Cherry Bombs' from the headers
(10 minutes 'tops'), and leave them on the ground, and not worry about having some rigged wiring or adjustable hangers dangling from the under-carriage, or worry about the exhaust pipe network or a tail-pipe with an expensive chrome-extension go flying out like some 'boomerang', as you went through the traps.
PC

[X-TECH MAN]

Back in the day some of those mufflers were hung near the rear of the car and "some how" weighed a lot more than stock mufflers.....lol.

[Paul Ceasrine]

X-Tech,
Concrete-filled. or Lead-filled.
Maybe the exhaust system should have been allowed to be placed in the trunk.
Some of those 'special' mufflers required two-people to lift it in the trunk.
Of course, no one said there were legal 'silencers'.
See, thats why they should have allowed 9.25" slicks for the top stock classes (9.99 and under).
8" wide inch for middle stock, and 7" wide for junior classes.
More Traction,,,Please

[X-TECH MAN]

Both....Concrete and lead. I know it for a fact.....lol. Not to mention the spare tires that required at least two guys to take one out of the trunk. I knew of one spare tire that required an engine hoist to remove it and that was as late as around 1974.

[X-TECH MAN]

The BEST description for me of a 60's Jr. stocker is lots of inexpensive fun fun fun !

[Paul Ceasrine]

X-Tech,
I think the Mid-West Farmer Junior Stockers filled the tires with Portland Cement Limestone
A little trick they used on the farm, to get better traction from the
John Deere Tractors. (148 lbs./ cubic foot)
Seems that the powder weighed a bunch, and filled nicely in one of those 7.75 x 14's.
I think the only way to get it out of the trunk, was like you you said, an engine hoist,,, or wait for the trunk panel to rot out
PC