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Old 10-24-2011, 08:54 AM   #21
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This is the best post How do we return these racers?

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In an economy where fewer people are investing big bucks in NEW race car projects, this is the key. What is sitting in the garage!

I've always said NHRA shouldn't be listening to the current racers - they should be soliciting opinions from those who raced five years ago and no longer do.
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Old 10-24-2011, 09:18 AM   #22
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Until the management and the board at NHRA quit using the organization as a vehicle to enrich themselves nothing will change. They are similar to a lot of non profits that have been in business for a long time, in that all the profit flows to the management and board in the form of high salaries and benefits. If you look at their tax returns it's easy to see. It's not just Compton whose salary is out of whack but there are a bunch of people making over 200k.

NHRA could be run with less than half the people with a third of the payroll. First thing I would do is move it to Indy. They own that property and it would be easy to put up a modest office building to house the staff. All other expenses need to be looked at including all the contracts that are given to various vendors during the year and benefits to management and board members that are out of line. The bottom line is that there is no incentive to control costs. If you look at past tax returns as revenue goes up so do expenses . They make the numbers fit instead of trying to spend less so they can invest in making the organization stronger. As long as the present structure is in place nothing will change. Do we really need a board of directors with every member making 6 figures for one meeting a month? Why do we need a president and ceo making 750k that knows nothing about racing?

It all comes down to my basic premise and that is the company is run for the benefit of the management and board and not for the good of the organization and it's members.
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Old 10-24-2011, 02:03 PM   #23
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Until the management and the board at NHRA quit using the organization as a vehicle to enrich themselves nothing will change. They are similar to a lot of non profits that have been in business for a long time, in that all the profit flows to the management and board in the form of high salaries and benefits. If you look at their tax returns it's easy to see. It's not just Compton whose salary is out of whack but there are a bunch of people making over 200k.

NHRA could be run with less than half the people with a third of the payroll. First thing I would do is move it to Indy. They own that property and it would be easy to put up a modest office building to house the staff. All other expenses need to be looked at including all the contracts that are given to various vendors during the year and benefits to management and board members that are out of line. The bottom line is that there is no incentive to control costs. If you look at past tax returns as revenue goes up so do expenses . They make the numbers fit instead of trying to spend less so they can invest in making the organization stronger. As long as the present structure is in place nothing will change. Do we really need a board of directors with every member making 6 figures for one meeting a month? Why do we need a president and ceo making 750k that knows nothing about racing?

It all comes down to my basic premise and that is the company is run for the benefit of the management and board and not for the good of the organization and it's members.
You all know what Im going to say here.......X's 1,000,000. I could see the hand writing on the wall back in the mid to late 70's before Wally Parks passed away. The lowly sportsman racer is basicly screwed over and over since about the mid 80's from a financial stand point.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:21 PM   #24
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Until the management and the board at NHRA quit using the organization as a vehicle to enrich themselves nothing will change. They are similar to a lot of non profits that have been in business for a long time, in that all the profit flows to the management and board in the form of high salaries and benefits. If you look at their tax returns it's easy to see. It's not just Compton whose salary is out of whack but there are a bunch of people making over 200k.

NHRA could be run with less than half the people with a third of the payroll. First thing I would do is move it to Indy. They own that property and it would be easy to put up a modest office building to house the staff. All other expenses need to be looked at including all the contracts that are given to various vendors during the year and benefits to management and board members that are out of line. The bottom line is that there is no incentive to control costs. If you look at past tax returns as revenue goes up so do expenses . They make the numbers fit instead of trying to spend less so they can invest in making the organization stronger. As long as the present structure is in place nothing will change. Do we really need a board of directors with every member making 6 figures for one meeting a month? Why do we need a president and ceo making 750k that knows nothing about racing?

It all comes down to my basic premise and that is the company is run for the benefit of the management and board and not for the good of the organization and it's members.
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Old 10-24-2011, 03:26 PM   #25
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It appears the alchohol classes are possibly going regional. A post from another board:

Regional races coming?
I have just heard this is the new format for 2012. There was a committee that decided that we will only have "regional" races in 2012 for the Alcohol classes. No divisionals. This was not discussed or decided by the your divisional advisory council. This meeting was invitation only, and held without my knowing it was taking place. I am the Div. 1 advisory rep. and no one asked for my imput. I am curious as to who made up this committee. How many racers were involved, or was this all NHRA's decision?
Mike Kosky, Division 1 Alcohol advisory committee


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http://www.insidetopalcohol.com/show...l-races-coming

Change is in the air...
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Old 10-24-2011, 07:23 PM   #26
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Take a minute to cross over to the Alcohol Fourm at this link. Some interesting reading.

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Old 10-25-2011, 08:22 AM   #27
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Rumor has it that there will be 6.00, 6.50, 7.00 classes added to Stock. Anyone else hearing that?
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Old 10-25-2011, 05:17 PM   #28
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Giving up the lavish life in California and moving the whole operation to Indy would save a bundle.
...or giving up those who live the lavish life here would save a bundle.
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Old 10-26-2011, 09:05 AM   #29
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The idea of the alcohol cars going to be at regional and not divisional races will be a catch 22 for the other sportsman classes. NHRA will use the lack of alcohol cars as an excuse to raise the entry fees due to the fact that there will be less spectators coming to just see the normal program. A divisional race will be just like a Saturday night at a bracket race, with no spectators, the alcohol cars are what draw the crowds at divisionals whether you believe it or not. I personally like the idea of no alcohol cars, but I don't go to divisionals lately either. $180 to race for a $1000 doesn't make sense to me, when I can race for the same $1000 with an entry fee of $50 at my local track. That's is what is killing the NHRA program, I love stock, but I have to stay logical when I decide to go where to race.

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Old 10-26-2011, 12:22 PM   #30
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Rumor has it that there will be 6.00, 6.50, 7.00 classes added to Stock. Anyone else hearing that?
I was told that when I went thru tech at Charlotte by Bruce. If anyone should know, I would think that it would be him. I had posted that info after I had gotten back home.
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