Engine location for S/G

Jim Hughes · 05-08-2015, 10:04 AM

Good Morning.
I am building a S/G 1960 Falcon 2 door wagon. 533 BBF and C4. S&W tube chassis 2x3 frame w a-arms. Body is just outside shell for now, no firewall yet. I want ideas for best engine set back in relationship with center line of front spindle. Some say front motor plate should be even with spindle and 12" crank C/L to ground measurement. I have had suggestions for crank C/L to grond from 9'5 to 13". Also Crank should be level to ground.
Please share your ideas and opinions.
Thanks

C and W Racing · 05-09-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Hughes

Good Morning.
I am building a S/G 1960 Falcon 2 door wagon. 533 BBF and C4. S&W tube chassis 2x3 frame w a-arms. Body is just outside shell for now, no firewall yet. I want ideas for best engine set back in relationship with center line of front spindle. Some say front motor plate should be even with spindle and 12" crank C/L to ground measurement. I have had suggestions for crank C/L to grond from 9'5 to 13". Also Crank should be level to ground.
Please share your ideas and opinions.
Thanks

The reality is that the further back and the higher up you can get it, the better the weight transfer is. The more power the engine makes is when you start to bring it down and forward some. Wheelbase also is a factor along with the weight of the car. My thunderbird C/L is right at 10" with a wheelbase of 105. When I had my Ford Ranger, the same engine was further back and was 13.5" high. The wheelbase on it was 125
Chuck

Tom Goldman · 05-10-2015, 09:28 AM

Like Chuck said , height and setback are relative to horsepower and wheelbase .
I don't remember the wb on a Falcon , but your engine choice is one of the heavier ones , regardless of horsepower .
Super Gas cars that don't run wide open , bracket racing can defiantly benefit from maximum set back and height .
I would build the car with adjustable motor plate mounts , so future height changes are simplified .

Chasmanjr · 05-18-2015, 10:44 AM

There are quite a few variables to consider (too many for this two finger typer to write out) but if you want to give me a call at the shop (419-258-2100 advanced chassis, ask for Dan) I will be glad to take a few minutes with you to help with the design.
Thanks Dan

BLIND MULE · 05-20-2015, 11:10 PM

Do you already have the C4? If you don't have a trans DITCH the C4 and go with a glide you will be alot better off I know been running Ford's forever best thing I ever did was go glide ran C6 behind a 460 went to glide and picked up over 3 tenths! Good luck I am a Falcon guy myself I got A 64 2 door wagon that I bracket race 331 and glide got another 65 4 door with almost perfect body that would make a great driver or race car for sale!

05-08-2015, 10:04 AM	#1
Jim Hughes Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 31 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Engine location for S/G Good Morning. I am building a S/G 1960 Falcon 2 door wagon. 533 BBF and C4. S&W tube chassis 2x3 frame w a-arms. Body is just outside shell for now, no firewall yet. I want ideas for best engine set back in relationship with center line of front spindle. Some say front motor plate should be even with spindle and 12" crank C/L to ground measurement. I have had suggestions for crank C/L to grond from 9'5 to 13". Also Crank should be level to ground. Please share your ideas and opinions. Thanks

05-10-2015, 09:28 AM	#3
Tom Goldman VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Allentown,PA Posts: 2,436 Likes: 776 Liked 700 Times in 204 Posts	Re: Engine location for S/G Like Chuck said , height and setback are relative to horsepower and wheelbase . I don't remember the wb on a Falcon , but your engine choice is one of the heavier ones , regardless of horsepower . Super Gas cars that don't run wide open , bracket racing can defiantly benefit from maximum set back and height . I would build the car with adjustable motor plate mounts , so future height changes are simplified . __________________ Tom Goldman 1500 SG , 1506 STK

05-18-2015, 10:44 AM	#4
Chasmanjr Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 5 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Engine location for S/G There are quite a few variables to consider (too many for this two finger typer to write out) but if you want to give me a call at the shop (419-258-2100 advanced chassis, ask for Dan) I will be glad to take a few minutes with you to help with the design. Thanks Dan

05-20-2015, 11:10 PM	#5
BLIND MULE Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Alabama Posts: 319 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Engine location for S/G Do you already have the C4? If you don't have a trans DITCH the C4 and go with a glide you will be alot better off I know been running Ford's forever best thing I ever did was go glide ran C6 behind a 460 went to glide and picked up over 3 tenths! Good luck I am a Falcon guy myself I got A 64 2 door wagon that I bracket race 331 and glide got another 65 4 door with almost perfect body that would make a great driver or race car for sale!