AHFS at Indy - Page 2

BBF67 · 07-21-2017, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz

Hey Charlie, Indy lost it's appeal when they went to the fastest, regardless of class.

The 128 car Indy field use to be all class winners seated first and then the fastest qualifiers who did not win class were considered fill-ins. Back then a class winner was more important and all class winning cars were torn down to prove they were legal.

But times have changed and the whiners with deep pockets mean more to the big wigs than the little guy.

Albert Lee · 07-21-2017, 11:31 AM

Indy will always be the Pinnacle.

I don't buy the extra work comment since I thought this was requested by the racer's committee. Jeff?

Al Corda

Cotten · 07-21-2017, 12:15 PM

Charlie, I disagree I have been going to Indy for quite a number of years and having no ahfs there is the best thing nhra has done since the ahfs program was put into effect imo.

There has to be a place to run your car flatout with no penalty or whats the point of building it and what better place than Indy where it means something?

The majority of the racers that I talk to , that attend Indy, feel the same way.

Just my thoughts.

Mike

Tim H · 07-21-2017, 12:16 PM

INDY is the crown jewel ... wish some would stop tarnishing it ...

James Perrone · 07-21-2017, 12:38 PM

I'm with Charlie. Come on man. If you can go better than 120.
You should get hit. Your at Indy in Indy air and can go that fast
Indy is run this way to protect " the huge investment in the new cars"
Let's be real. It's wat too hard to make old junk run 120. Ain't happening
I will stay away until they stop the bs with the shoot out cars
Can't make the shoot out You Should Go Home.!
New cars rule the super bowl of drag racing Old iron gets pushed aside.
Good Luck to all. Indy Is Broken. NEXT

Paul Wong · 07-21-2017, 01:03 PM

There needs to be a place to see what the cars can run, but they need to be taken apart. At least they could use the portion of the $330 an event they hit us for to find people to enforce rules. We all know we're never getting it back in purses or contingency anymore, so at least it could be spent on a couple more people to check legality.

Paradigm Shift · 07-21-2017, 01:29 PM

Why does an event have to exist that is immune from the application of a system that was designed and implemented to correctly and fairly factor combinations?

Cotten · 07-21-2017, 01:47 PM

Paradigm shift, that is a good question.

My short answer is because the system doesn't work.

Everyone knows how to project their combo and other than an accident now and then or the need to go fast for a headsup run in eliminations most do protect.

Nhra responded to a lot of race racers request that indy be a no bs run it out race like it used to be.

I love it and I'll be there.

Mike

Paradigm Shift · 07-21-2017, 01:58 PM

Protect their combo from what and from whom? The fans? NHRA?

Those who suffer from these deceptions are undoubtedly fellow racers.

Even when turned loose at Indy many competitors still refrain from displaying true performance capabilities.

Out of respect for Stock competitors and for the integrity of the Eliminator itself, cars must be factored accurately.

Cotten · 07-21-2017, 02:06 PM

Protect their combos from hp adjustments. I'm sorry I thought that was obvious.

Of course the racers are the ones that suffer from underfactored combos but they are playing by the rules they were given.

I'm 100% in favor of totally fair hp factoring but just like totally fair taxes I don't think it's possible. Lol

07-21-2017, 11:31 AM	#12
Albert Lee Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 252 Likes: 97 Liked 269 Times in 48 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Indy will always be the Pinnacle. I don't buy the extra work comment since I thought this was requested by the racer's committee. Jeff? Al Corda

07-21-2017, 12:15 PM	#13
Cotten Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 219 Likes: 452 Liked 485 Times in 58 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Charlie, I disagree I have been going to Indy for quite a number of years and having no ahfs there is the best thing nhra has done since the ahfs program was put into effect imo. There has to be a place to run your car flatout with no penalty or whats the point of building it and what better place than Indy where it means something? The majority of the racers that I talk to , that attend Indy, feel the same way. Just my thoughts. Mike

07-21-2017, 12:16 PM	#14
Tim H VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,010 Likes: 898 Liked 430 Times in 142 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy INDY is the crown jewel ... wish some would stop tarnishing it ...

07-21-2017, 12:38 PM	#15
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,596 Likes: 2,932 Liked 1,610 Times in 377 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy I'm with Charlie. Come on man. If you can go better than 120. You should get hit. Your at Indy in Indy air and can go that fast Indy is run this way to protect " the huge investment in the new cars" Let's be real. It's wat too hard to make old junk run 120. Ain't happening I will stay away until they stop the bs with the shoot out cars Can't make the shoot out You Should Go Home.! New cars rule the super bowl of drag racing Old iron gets pushed aside. Good Luck to all. Indy Is Broken. NEXT __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

07-21-2017, 01:03 PM	#16
Paul Wong Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 367 Likes: 94 Liked 379 Times in 72 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy There needs to be a place to see what the cars can run, but they need to be taken apart. At least they could use the portion of the $330 an event they hit us for to find people to enforce rules. We all know we're never getting it back in purses or contingency anymore, so at least it could be spent on a couple more people to check legality.

07-21-2017, 01:29 PM	#17
Paradigm Shift Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 143 Likes: 3 Liked 80 Times in 29 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Why does an event have to exist that is immune from the application of a system that was designed and implemented to correctly and fairly factor combinations?

07-21-2017, 01:47 PM	#18
Cotten Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 219 Likes: 452 Liked 485 Times in 58 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Paradigm shift, that is a good question. My short answer is because the system doesn't work. Everyone knows how to project their combo and other than an accident now and then or the need to go fast for a headsup run in eliminations most do protect. Nhra responded to a lot of race racers request that indy be a no bs run it out race like it used to be. I love it and I'll be there. Mike

07-21-2017, 01:58 PM	#19
Paradigm Shift Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 143 Likes: 3 Liked 80 Times in 29 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Protect their combo from what and from whom? The fans? NHRA? Those who suffer from these deceptions are undoubtedly fellow racers. Even when turned loose at Indy many competitors still refrain from displaying true performance capabilities. Out of respect for Stock competitors and for the integrity of the Eliminator itself, cars must be factored accurately.

07-21-2017, 02:06 PM	#20
Cotten Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 219 Likes: 452 Liked 485 Times in 58 Posts	Re: AHFS at Indy Protect their combos from hp adjustments. I'm sorry I thought that was obvious. Of course the racers are the ones that suffer from underfactored combos but they are playing by the rules they were given. I'm 100% in favor of totally fair hp factoring but just like totally fair taxes I don't think it's possible. Lol