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Old 05-11-2019, 12:41 PM   #1
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Default Brakes help

79 mustang T\SA. I have stock SN95 front disks, stock rear drums and a stock style 7\8 bore manual disk\drum master cylinder. The brakes are like pushing on a brick. Really hard, They work but have a hard time holding the car at the tree.
Any ideas other than after market break system? I need to work with what i got. I would consider a new master but even the Willwood is 7\8 bore.
I thought about making my brake peddle a inch or two longer for more leverage.
I looked at moving the pushrod pin up higher but the way the master is I think it might bind.
Any ideas? Help please!
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Old 05-11-2019, 01:17 PM   #2
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I have converted a couple of Mustangs and had the same results. I would try to increase the pedal ratio. Do you have a brake pressure gauge to check to see what you're getting at the wheels?
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Old 05-11-2019, 01:24 PM   #3
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Do you happen to have an adjustable proportional valve on the line to the rear. I had problems holding the car on the line too. Checked with Strange and it turns out that while you put the valve on the rear for street rods you put it on the front for foot brake drag racing. Swirtched it around and have no problems anymore
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The harder the lining on the pad, the harder it is to hold the car....

Try some cheap soft pads....

Soft brake shoes for the rear wouldn't hurt either...

Use secondary shoes on the primary side also....

This is drag racing, not road racing...

Just sayin'
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an adjustable proportional valve is a good idea. The S\N 95 disks are bigger than the ones that were on the car. I still have the stock valve. I will also try soft pads.
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Old 05-11-2019, 04:30 PM   #6
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Robbie, did you eliminate the booster and keep the same pedal ratio? If so, that's your problem.
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You might try to find a smaller bore MC.
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Been there dun that.
If the rears don't hold the fronts will not make much difference
1. Move pedal rod up to top hole.
2. Small master 7/8
3. F250 rear wheel cylinders
4 12X2 rear drums with NOS Ford linings.
I have the rear backing plates wheel cylinders and linings. They are yours if you come and get them.
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Robbie, did you eliminate the booster and keep the same pedal ratio? If so, that's your problem.
Yep sure did. Might be hard to find the manual break one
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Yep sure did. Might be hard to find the manual break one
Okay. First step is take the pedal out and drill a hole about an inch up. They are case hardened , so use a drill press.
That's the free one , before getting out the Plasti-Card.
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