Attention Nova 350/255 stock combo.

[Jeff Stout]

Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Back on page 2 of this post when I said lower them by 5 tenths I meant lower the amount under the index by 5 tenths (to .70 under) instead of 1.20 under gets you automatic HP and a free trip to the tear down barn !

That would fix this problem very quickly.

[Gary Parker]

the AHFS has flaws. It does not consider the person who puts a combo together and runs it , how ever it runs. Then you have the person that puts the same combo together and works on it all the time because he does not want to get beat heads up. So for the person who works his butt off his reward is NHRA slowing him down. Yes there are under factored cars, What we need is someone with common sense to know when one is under factored or not.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

That would fix this problem very quickly.

No, it wouldn't, unless the AHFS is/was in affect for ALL races. The #1 Qualifier at Indy in 2018 went 2.01 under and has NEVER been factored. The same car just (JUST) qualified #1 at Earlville.
Now, I'm not faulting the man that built it, IMHO, he's one of the smartest men in this sport. But I will fault the system.
NHRA needs to have people in place that understand engines and combos. Until they do, it's all just a joke and a "buddy's club".

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Gary Parker

What we need is someone with common sense to know when one is under factored or not.

What we need is someone who knows when a combo has been "manipulated/ enhanced" and has the balls to toss it.

[M Brand 505B]

Most can manipulate the AHFS. No one wants HP but some combos are quite under factored. Lower the average to .80 to .75. That would be the easiest ways to add HP to more combos without changing the AHFS drastically.

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by M Brand 505B

Most can manipulate the AHFS. No one wants HP but some combos are quite under factored. Lower the average to .80 to .75. That would be the easiest ways to add HP to more combos without changing the AHFS drastically.

Lowering the indexes is what Billy calls liberalism. Do you think the guys who are smart enough to stay out of trouble with the current system will all of a sudden become a bunch of dumb azzes? No they won't and the slow guys will still get beat. The fact is this is an ultra competitive sport and a racer can pick a good combination, work hard and spend money to go fast or you can be slow. Either way you'll have fun.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Well, the trouble I see with just whacking the indexes is that as NHRA continues to "liberalize" the rules

Re-read my post Bruce.

[Frank Castros]

Do we believe that everyone let it fly at Indy, or did some racers still hold back?

[Billy Harper]

Hi masshole here yes I did screw up on a red light got out of it after a 1000 ft really didn’t think i was going that fast I talked to James Monday about it and now he just proceeds to drag my name through the mud all over the internet . we haven’t even got any hp yet I guess if it makes him feel better everybody deals with things differently I can honestly say I would never write a thread like this if Mr Perrone did the same thing I may call him but not call him an a-hole or masshole or what ever yes it does suck that some of us have to slow our cars down after we spend all this time and money making them go fast hopefully NHRA will come up with a better solution. As far as my car yes 69 -72 Novas although same body have some differences. I guess James would be the one to know if my taillights are different

Thanks (A-hole or Masshole).

[Mark Callanan]

How sad we continue to argue
We are the consumer here
We continue to race under foolish rules and then fight with each other over those rules
The factoring system doesn't work and has never worked
When we work together it will work better when we allow our selves to be divided we will never get what we want or deserve.....
When we give them money it seems to me we should get what we want
Am i missing something
On another note Billy Harper is a fine gentleman and he should get to play fully as he sees fit
He worked hard and spent the money....