1982-92 camaro

[zracer305]

Originally Posted by Dragsinger

I am unsettled about a torque arm front pivot design. Even after talking with S & W plus other racers, I still am not satisfied that a "poly" bushing at the front pivot is best.

I to have thought about replacing the poly bushing with a solid spacer. I have asked around and no body makes one. Wouldn't be hard to design one though.

Since I'm not worried about the 2x2 flexing here is how I braced the crossmenber to the subframconnectors.

[Dragsinger]

ZRacer,

your design looks good, I like the crossmember being triangulated to the frame connectors. Also, I like your idea about removing the poly bushing and building a solid bushing to replace it. I had not thought of that. This is a good example of our information age, I really like being able to share ideas & thoughts. A fellow can usually learn something! [smile]

[Dragsinger]

by tha way, what is the length of the S & W torque arm? [center of axle to center of front bushing?]

[zracer305]

Yes, there is a lot to learn on this site as well as others like it. The torque arm setup was new to me and I had to do a lot of research before I realized just how it works. I actually got to talk to the engineer who designed it for GM. To really make this setup hook and have you car 60' well there is a lot more than just bolting this thing on.

[zracer305]

Originally Posted by Dragsinger

by tha way, what is the length of the S & W torque arm? [center of axle to center of front bushing?]

From what I understand it is 12" shorter that the stock one which I beleive is 56". That is from the top attachment point in the rear to the center point in the front. The shorter they are the harder hit on the tires.

[Bill Kennedy]

We used the S&W stuff in our Firebird stocker. Never had any problems and picked the 60' time up quite a bit. You cannot go wrong with that set up!!!

[Rob Petrie E395]

I wonder if the racers listed in their ad auctually use them un modified or they modify them. I am hoping Mr Josey,or one of the others in their add will see this and chime in as to how best to use them. (modified or unmodified) I am sure there is something better than what I am currently using (SLP subframe connectors and a adjustable torque arm that has the plate bolted up in the tunnel. very heavy but all that was available back in 95-96 when I started bracket racing current car) Its time update I just want to make sure what I buy is what is the best bang for the buck so to speak.
Once again thanks again for all your opininons/help
Rob

[monahan]

just my 2 cents i have 90 pontiac formula j/sa 2x3 tubing for sub frame connectors eibach srings r/r air bag lakewood control arms stock sway bar stock torque arm with homemade frontmount/ driveshaft loop 60fts low 1.40s in j/sa thanks for listening gene monahan 1021 stk

[zracer305]

Originally Posted by monahan

just my 2 cents i have 90 pontiac formula j/sa 2x3 tubing for sub frame connectors eibach srings r/r air bag lakewood control arms stock sway bar stock torque arm with homemade frontmount/ driveshaft loop 60fts low 1.40s in j/sa thanks for listening gene monahan 1021 stk

I have seen your car and have always admired how well it hooks up on the starting line. If you don't mind me asking...What are your 60' times and what anti-roll bar do you use?

[keith ohanesian]

He doesn't use an anti-roll bar Gene has the stock sway bar. It is the old school set up air bags and sway bar. And hell it works!! Might be better with the s and w stuff. Who knows does some one what to donate so he can back to back the set ups????