Air cleaners! - Page 2

Patrick Kelliher · 09-20-2008, 11:09 PM

Again, only 1 way to know for sure on your combination, and that is to test back to back.

Jeff Lee · 09-21-2008, 02:40 AM

On my stocker AMX I ran the factory base (your basic round tub) with a K&N 12" with the K&N pleated lid. This is with factory Ram-Air. With or without the filter set-up it ran the same. Since I live in dusty Arizona, I left it all on. Now that I'm in SS and run a taller intake, it no longer fits. Eventually I will find something that works.
For your single 4bbl HEMI, I would look at running a MOPAR "Coyote Duster" base. It is the largest base produced (other than factory MOPAR shaker) to keep heat away and it has a velocity stack shaped entry which should aide in airflow. These were the factory set-up on cars like 383 Road Runners, Super Bee's, etc. Year-One sells a fiberglass version for around $100. Since it is a mopar item you should be able to use it. You won't be able to seal it to the '65 scoop as it was not a factory deal. Or at least that's the way I understand it.
Was there a sealed scoop on those NASCAR HEMI single 4bbl cars? I don't know, it's been so long since I've seen one of those cars...

John Lang · 09-21-2008, 02:39 PM

Jeff! According to Jack McCormack the hood scoop is legal with the single 4bbl Hemi and approved by the NHRA. The other thing that i forgot was that i have the MCH sheetmetal intake , so that means I only have the top of the choke tower to the base of the carb plus 1.25" clearence to the flat surface, i don' t know how much drop there is on the part you mentioned .I just hope my tank will get within site of those nasty corvettes in SS/DA, & SS/EA. Never know until you try ! I'll post results after testing, unless they really suck. Thanks to all who repllied,........ Later ...John Lang

Jeff Lee · 09-21-2008, 07:16 PM

What I meant was, if you are sealing the carb / air box or air pan to the factory scoop, it must be per factory installation and parts as assembled. If you choose not to seal the carb to the scoop, you can do almost anything you want using factory parts.
Example: If you had a '69 Road Runner with the RamCharger induction system, you could run that system. It must include all the factory parts. But you can't take the RamCharger system and place it on your '65 Dodge and have it sealed to the scoop. At least that's the way I understand it. I'm open for corrections...

Tom P · 09-21-2008, 10:11 PM

With that limited clearance above the carb i'd use a base and filter and let the underside of the scoop become the lid.

09-20-2008, 11:09 PM	#11
Patrick Kelliher Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 124 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Air cleaners! Again, only 1 way to know for sure on your combination, and that is to test back to back.

09-21-2008, 02:40 AM	#12
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Air cleaners! On my stocker AMX I ran the factory base (your basic round tub) with a K&N 12" with the K&N pleated lid. This is with factory Ram-Air. With or without the filter set-up it ran the same. Since I live in dusty Arizona, I left it all on. Now that I'm in SS and run a taller intake, it no longer fits. Eventually I will find something that works. For your single 4bbl HEMI, I would look at running a MOPAR "Coyote Duster" base. It is the largest base produced (other than factory MOPAR shaker) to keep heat away and it has a velocity stack shaped entry which should aide in airflow. These were the factory set-up on cars like 383 Road Runners, Super Bee's, etc. Year-One sells a fiberglass version for around $100. Since it is a mopar item you should be able to use it. You won't be able to seal it to the '65 scoop as it was not a factory deal. Or at least that's the way I understand it. Was there a sealed scoop on those NASCAR HEMI single 4bbl cars? I don't know, it's been so long since I've seen one of those cars... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-21-2008, 02:39 PM	#13
John Lang Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sheboygan Wi Posts: 391 Likes: 0 Liked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Air cleaners! Jeff! According to Jack McCormack the hood scoop is legal with the single 4bbl Hemi and approved by the NHRA. The other thing that i forgot was that i have the MCH sheetmetal intake , so that means I only have the top of the choke tower to the base of the carb plus 1.25" clearence to the flat surface, i don' t know how much drop there is on the part you mentioned .I just hope my tank will get within site of those nasty corvettes in SS/DA, & SS/EA. Never know until you try ! I'll post results after testing, unless they really suck. Thanks to all who repllied,........ Later ...John Lang __________________ John Lang 365 STK, SS

09-21-2008, 07:16 PM	#14
Jeff Lee VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anthem, Arizona Posts: 2,766 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Air cleaners! What I meant was, if you are sealing the carb / air box or air pan to the factory scoop, it must be per factory installation and parts as assembled. If you choose not to seal the carb to the scoop, you can do almost anything you want using factory parts. Example: If you had a '69 Road Runner with the RamCharger induction system, you could run that system. It must include all the factory parts. But you can't take the RamCharger system and place it on your '65 Dodge and have it sealed to the scoop. At least that's the way I understand it. I'm open for corrections... __________________ Jeff Lee 7494 D/S '70 AMX

09-21-2008, 10:11 PM	#15
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 698 Likes: 29 Liked 218 Times in 89 Posts	Re: Air cleaners! With that limited clearance above the carb i'd use a base and filter and let the underside of the scoop become the lid.