What Changes In Super Classes Would You Like To See

[cal]

Hello All
I been outta racing for several years, and just returned last season to my true love,
"DRAG RACING".
I mostly bracket race, but ran a couple IHRA Nitro Jams races, and competed in Hot Rod.
And to my suprise I liked it, and hope to attend several S/ST & H/R races this coming season.

I guess my question is, is there anything you the races see that would make the class more appealing to other racers and to fans. Is there something that you think should be changed in your particular Super class.

Do you think S/ST H/R would be a better class with no throttle stop?
Should S/ST H/R be for back half type cars only?
Must have Stock Firewall and a stock dash?
Should the minum weight be raised to 3000 lbs?
Should all cars in S/ST H/R have a glass windsheild?
I really like all the different types of cars competeing in S/ST H/R.

I like the 5 tenths Pro Tree, as far as the Scotty rule goes, I think you should only be able to run 1 super class, if you want to run a 2nd class run Stock or Super Stock, T/D or T/S, or? (but it really doesnt matter to me)
The 10.90 index is fine, but so would a 10.50 index too.

I allready sold my slow 10.70 motor and have a 9.50 motor in the works, so I can throttle stop too. LOL


Maybe what NHRA should be doing is putting a maxium MPH for all 3 Super Classes.
From a fans point of veiw 8.90 at 190 MPH is not as appealing as a 8.90 at 160 MPH
without a throttle stop. can they really tell if the car is going 160 MPH or 190 MPH.

It appears that index racing is not for everybody, but I'm sure looking forward to learning more about it. Racing as many races as I can. Having FUN meeting new racers and making new friends.

O well my 2 cents not that its worth that much LOL
Cal
HR 177X

[Nitro Joe Jackson]

simple, take away the timers. Thats it, nothing else, leave the rest alone.

[JThomas]

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson

simple, take away the timers. Thats it, nothing else, leave the rest alone.

You sure do a lot of whining about timers for someone that doesn't even race the classes.

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by JThomas

You sure do a lot of whining about timers for someone that doesn't even race the classes.

Dude..you are way off base here about Joe....Anyone that has been around a while knows Joe raced and so do and did his parents and they go wayyyyyy back.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with delay boxes or throttle stops in drag racing. Timers are the single item that allowed big HP and big speed to invade .90 racing. Remove them and we go back to the exact same speeds as 20+ years ago.....and the racing was close all the way down the track usually within 1 car length ......just slower speeds...........


Big deal remove delay boxes than racers would use other means to stay green and would still cut near perfect lites.....remove throttle stops and racers are supposed to do what to get on the index? Add weight...use a fixed bolt.....use a high side chip thats a little to low........all the same stuff that was done 20+ years ago.

All the big engine builders throw out all their big engines and start building small engines.....How many manufacturers go out of business thanks to these changes......

If there are any changes made they should be PRO-gressive....not Re-gressive........Add a faster class....for those who want to run faster.....7.90

Yea I know they can't finish what they have now but they could drop xxxxx.... fill in the missing blank there LOL...........

[JThomas]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Dude..you are way off base here about Joe....Anyone that has been around a while knows Joe raced and so do and did his parents and they go wayyyyyy back.

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I have know Joe and his parents for a long time too(great people). I was just poking some fun at him. That is why I added the smiley face.

[Rich Biebel]

Originally Posted by JThomas

I have know Joe and his parents for a long time too(great people). I was just poking some fun at him. That is why I added the smiley face.

OHHH! Now I get it..They are nice people for sure....

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel

Dude..you are way off base here about Joe....Anyone that has been around a while knows Joe raced and so do and did his parents and they go wayyyyyy back.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with delay boxes or throttle stops in drag racing. Timers are the single item that allowed big HP and big speed to invade .90 racing. Remove them and we go back to the exact same speeds as 20+ years ago.....and the racing was close all the way down the track usually within 1 car length ......just slower speeds...........


Big deal remove delay boxes than racers would use other means to stay green and would still cut near perfect lites.....remove throttle stops and racers are supposed to do what to get on the index? Add weight...use a fixed bolt.....use a high side chip thats a little to low........all the same stuff that was done 20+ years ago.

All the big engine builders throw out all their big engines and start building small engines.....How many manufacturers go out of business thanks to these changes......

If there are any changes made they should be PRO-gressive....not Re-gressive........Add a faster class....for those who want to run faster.....7.90

Yea I know they can't finish what they have now but they could drop xxxxx.... fill in the missing blank there LOL...........

Drop Alcohol Ha Ha cars and Alcohol dragsters and gain plenty of time. They dont pay thier own way anyway. I bet you all knew I was going to say that.....LOL.
Good idea about running 8.50 and 9.50. I dont think that would hurt anyone who runs the Super classes these days. Maybe 10.50 would work also in S/ST and H/R. Leave the stops, and delay boxes like you said but those timers need to go away. Its not about what Legend said about it being easy or hard....Its just one more thing to cost more money and like you said it brought the MPH up and made using the large and more expensive engines eaiser to get down the track with. Just another learning curve and more $$$$$. IHRA tried a 7.90 class years ago but it turned into T/D. If you want to run that fast join the T/D guys. Just my 2 1/2 cents from being around it for many years. I know you guys dont pay attention to me anyway but felt I needed to say this.

[gmeyer]

Leave everything alone in HR and SST it works.Along with the Min weight i would like to see a Max MPH of 135.

[X-TECH MAN]

Originally Posted by Nitro Joe Jackson

simple, take away the timers. Thats it, nothing else, leave the rest alone.

I know my opinion dosent count but I have to agree with Nitro Joe. Take away the timers and throttle stops and you guys might have 2 or 3 more spectators watching in the stands. Leave the rest alone !

[jmcarter]

Cal (and adding your signature to provide your real name is helpful), I've run several Super Street races and really enjoyed it, having a little success after mastering the timers and such. I think the .5 tree and minimum weights are the great equalizer that makes such a wide variety of cars capable of winning and entertaining to watch. Consequently, I think the classes should be left "as is" except for dropping the Scotty rule. Hope you continue to run 10.90 and get to know all the racers, great folks.