62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction - Page 9

gymracer01 · 08-11-2007, 03:14 PM

I noticed someone asked about the 2 piece driveshaft. Do you still use it? A friend fo mine, who bought the SS/PA 59 Chevy I built in 72 switch it to a BBC and bracket raced it, running mid 10s and everyone was amazed he still used the stock shaft setup. Never gave any problems. Just kept a close eye on carrier bearing.
Jim N.

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-11-2007, 06:09 PM

Pretty discouraged, Bob.
If it were just 3 or 4 inexplainable defective parts, or minor errors on my part...
no problem
But DAMN....
it's EVERYTHING !

Danny, that event sounds like more fun than I could be permitted !
However, again, the whole idea of this project, was to try and regain some respect from today's racers/enthusiasts, towards the 409 engine and/cars. I've had them for the past 22+ years, and the WHOLE TIME, I've had to listen to the "other" Chevy guys politely make fun of them ! You know what THAT caused ?!!.... gotta prove them wrong... at any / all costs.
well
I got the "all costs" part down pretty good now.

Now that the traction problem seems to be getting rectified, a supposed fuel delivery problem had to be addressed.
Did it. Lovely parts, properly installed.
Fixed NOTHING !
The GLORIOUS MSD distributor has the rotor out of phase with the cap. Yeah, one QUALITY $400 part there.... !
Anyhow, I devised a way to remedy THAT.
Today, I'm going to see if the "miss" is gone.
I'm not optimistic.

Anyhow guys... thank YOU for the encouragement... I think... it's BECAUSE of the encouragement, that I keep spending money and time on this thing !
HEEE HEEEE !!!

Yes, still two piece driveshaft... but I made it up out of more "substantial" components,

Rory McNeil · 08-11-2007, 07:33 PM

Aubrey, I`ll be at Bremerton Aug 25&26th, for the Super Shifter race, as will a frind of mine who happens to race a 62 BelAir 2 dr sedan with a 409 and a Jerico. Wills 62 has gone 10.8 ET `s on 9x30 Goodyears, and has the basic stock rear suspension system, weighing 3900 lbs.There should be a photo or 2 of the green 62 BelAir on our website; www.bcsuper****er.com.

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-12-2007, 01:23 AM

Rory, do you know how bad I'd like to see a western Canadian 409 car in the 10's ?!!!!!
Can you imagine how much I'd like to see the picture ?
To give you an idea of how this is going ....
Your webpage link is dead !
just ADDING to the frustration !

BTW... With the distributor internals phased properly, this thing sure starts better !

Won't be going anywhere for a while though.

NovaMan · 08-12-2007, 01:39 AM

Try http://www.bcsupershifter.com/

I think this is the pic Rory was talking about:
http://bcsupershifter.com/gallery/di...=47&fullsize=1

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-12-2007, 11:56 AM

aaaaah, THERE we are now....
went for a test of the engine ( for miss )
One thing hadn't gone wrong yet...
now...
wiped out no. 3 intake lobe on the cam ( something seems to have happened to the Schubeck lifter... VERY low in the lifter bore )
I've been building engines for myself and many other people, for 31 years. NEVER lost a cam.
If there was going to be a first time, it WOULD be with THIS car !

Camshaft ?
I have another, same profile, 110 centreline separation instead of 108.
No problem
Schubeck lifters ?
well...
see you next year !

Thank YOU, Novaman and Rory...
Certainly looks like THAT's where a career stick-shift driver should be !

NovaMan · 08-12-2007, 03:27 PM

Wow, major bummer on the cam/lifter! Let us know what you find when you tear it down. Hopefully the debris didn't hurt anything else.

Geerhead55 · 08-12-2007, 04:24 PM

Aubrey,,, I hope you can make it down here,, but if you don't I understand. I hope you can get your problems ironed out. I'd love to see the car at perhaps, next years Mission divisional race,, good luck and hang in there.
Rory,,, I'm glad to hear you're coming along this year with the group! I'll make sure to look you up Saturday night,,, however feel free to come up in the tower and say "hello".
Danny Durham ( sorry guys,,I have Powerglide!LOL!!)

Alan Roehrich · 08-12-2007, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NHRAstocker409

aaaaah, THERE we are now....
went for a test of the engine ( for miss )
One thing hadn't gone wrong yet...
now...
wiped out no. 3 intake lobe on the cam ( something seems to have happened to the Schubeck lifter... VERY low in the lifter bore )
I've been building engines for myself and many other people, for 31 years. NEVER lost a cam.
If there was going to be a first time, it WOULD be with THIS car !

Camshaft ?
I have another, same profile, 110 centreline separation instead of 108.
No problem
Schubeck lifters ?
well...
see you next year !

Thank YOU, Novaman and Rory...
Certainly looks like THAT's where a career stick-shift driver should be !

Aubrey,
Skip the Shubecks, and the wait. Go get a set of DLC coated tool steel lifters from PPPC or Performance Research.

If it did break the Shubeck, I hope it didn't kill the rest of the engine. The debris from those things is horrendous.

Aubrey N Bruneau · 08-13-2007, 12:04 PM

Yes guys, I am concerned about that.
Should pull the intake today. But I'll tell ya'... if I wasn't discouraged before... I sure am now.
After waiting for my -pre-paid crankshaft machning for 5+ months, I spent the entire month of July, assembling the car, and attempting to get it working. No time with the kids, no outings, nothing...
and the WHOLE TIME it was 85-95 degrees !
Can't afford to put anymore money or time in this car this summer.

08-11-2007, 03:14 PM	#81
gymracer01 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Middle Tennesse Posts: 46 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction I noticed someone asked about the 2 piece driveshaft. Do you still use it? A friend fo mine, who bought the SS/PA 59 Chevy I built in 72 switch it to a BBC and bracket raced it, running mid 10s and everyone was amazed he still used the stock shaft setup. Never gave any problems. Just kept a close eye on carrier bearing. Jim N.

08-11-2007, 06:09 PM	#82
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Pretty discouraged, Bob. If it were just 3 or 4 inexplainable defective parts, or minor errors on my part... no problem But DAMN.... it's EVERYTHING ! Danny, that event sounds like more fun than I could be permitted ! However, again, the whole idea of this project, was to try and regain some respect from today's racers/enthusiasts, towards the 409 engine and/cars. I've had them for the past 22+ years, and the WHOLE TIME, I've had to listen to the "other" Chevy guys politely make fun of them ! You know what THAT caused ?!!.... gotta prove them wrong... at any / all costs. well I got the "all costs" part down pretty good now. Now that the traction problem seems to be getting rectified, a supposed fuel delivery problem had to be addressed. Did it. Lovely parts, properly installed. Fixed NOTHING ! The GLORIOUS MSD distributor has the rotor out of phase with the cap. Yeah, one QUALITY $400 part there.... ! Anyhow, I devised a way to remedy THAT. Today, I'm going to see if the "miss" is gone. I'm not optimistic. Anyhow guys... thank YOU for the encouragement... I think... it's BECAUSE of the encouragement, that I keep spending money and time on this thing ! HEEE HEEEE !!! Yes, still two piece driveshaft... but I made it up out of more "substantial" components, __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

08-11-2007, 07:33 PM	#83
Rory McNeil VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: from Vancouver BC Canada, now in Nova Scotia Posts: 1,257 Likes: 244 Liked 937 Times in 258 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Aubrey, I`ll be at Bremerton Aug 25&26th, for the Super Shifter race, as will a frind of mine who happens to race a 62 BelAir 2 dr sedan with a 409 and a Jerico. Wills 62 has gone 10.8 ET `s on 9x30 Goodyears, and has the basic stock rear suspension system, weighing 3900 lbs.There should be a photo or 2 of the green 62 BelAir on our website; www.bcsuper****er.com. __________________ NHRA 6390 STK M/S 85 Mustang

08-12-2007, 01:23 AM	#84
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Rory, do you know how bad I'd like to see a western Canadian 409 car in the 10's ?!!!!! Can you imagine how much I'd like to see the picture ? To give you an idea of how this is going .... Your webpage link is dead ! just ADDING to the frustration ! BTW... With the distributor internals phased properly, this thing sure starts better ! Won't be going anywhere for a while though. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

08-12-2007, 01:39 AM	#85
NovaMan Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 117 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Try http://www.bcsupershifter.com/ I think this is the pic Rory was talking about: http://bcsupershifter.com/gallery/di...=47&fullsize=1 __________________ ~Pete 1970 Nova Last edited by NovaMan; 08-12-2007 at 01:43 AM.

08-12-2007, 11:56 AM	#86
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction aaaaah, THERE we are now.... went for a test of the engine ( for miss ) One thing hadn't gone wrong yet... now... wiped out no. 3 intake lobe on the cam ( something seems to have happened to the Schubeck lifter... VERY low in the lifter bore ) I've been building engines for myself and many other people, for 31 years. NEVER lost a cam. If there was going to be a first time, it WOULD be with THIS car ! Camshaft ? I have another, same profile, 110 centreline separation instead of 108. No problem Schubeck lifters ? well... see you next year ! Thank YOU, Novaman and Rory... Certainly looks like THAT's where a career stick-shift driver should be ! __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409

08-12-2007, 03:27 PM	#87
NovaMan Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 117 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Wow, major bummer on the cam/lifter! Let us know what you find when you tear it down. Hopefully the debris didn't hurt anything else. __________________ ~Pete 1970 Nova

08-12-2007, 04:24 PM	#88
Geerhead55 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 1,632 Likes: 0 Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Aubrey,,, I hope you can make it down here,, but if you don't I understand. I hope you can get your problems ironed out. I'd love to see the car at perhaps, next years Mission divisional race,, good luck and hang in there. Rory,,, I'm glad to hear you're coming along this year with the group! I'll make sure to look you up Saturday night,,, however feel free to come up in the tower and say "hello". Danny Durham ( sorry guys,,I have Powerglide!LOL!!)

08-13-2007, 12:04 PM	#90
Aubrey N Bruneau Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: South Eastern Alberta, Canada Posts: 311 Likes: 6 Liked 7 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 62 Chevrolet, STILL No Traction Yes guys, I am concerned about that. Should pull the intake today. But I'll tell ya'... if I wasn't discouraged before... I sure am now. After waiting for my -pre-paid crankshaft machning for 5+ months, I spent the entire month of July, assembling the car, and attempting to get it working. No time with the kids, no outings, nothing... and the WHOLE TIME it was 85-95 degrees ! Can't afford to put anymore money or time in this car this summer. __________________ Aubrey N Bruneau 6409 C/S 62 BelAir sport coupe, 409 HP 409