S/SS Brake safety - Page 3

David Lee · 09-13-2017, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandOverFist

You can see it behind this M/C...

I am using the mopar 4 to 2 adapter, can i still use this?

J&S Racing · 09-14-2017, 07:26 AM

Well this was good timing. Car just came back from the chassis shop and first order of business is brakes.

I will be using the mopar master with the 4 to 2 adapter like David and I'm wondering the same thing. Can the bickle piece be used with the adaptor or will a stop need to be made?

Strawboss · 09-14-2017, 03:46 PM

We did this on a Camaro back in the late 80's. We bent a u shaped bracket about 1" wide thin metal with a hole in the center and placed it behind the MS and the push rod thru the hole. You had to slot the firewall to clear the bracket and drill holes to bolt on the MS bolts but this way there is no way for the rod to fall out. It is still that way today. This is cheap an easy to do.

B Aceves · 09-14-2017, 07:42 PM

So for the guys or gals that buy the Lamb brake conversion don't pass up the master cylinder option.
All the master cylinders come with the life saving bracket as well from Lamb.

Kevin Panzino · 09-14-2017, 09:00 PM

Yep, very big deal. I remember when this came up several years ago, someone wrecked from this and posted about it on here. I immediately went downstairs and 'enlisted' my young son who was far more flexible than me to go under there and check it out. No problem, the bolt and nut arrangement was already in place limiting the back travel of the pedal ('ol Joe Scott knew what he was doing )

CMcAllister · 09-15-2017, 11:01 PM

I've seen a number of cars torn up over the years and some guys who were lucky to not get badly hurt. On anything I'm involved with I use a positive pushrod retainer of some sort at the master cylinder. In a pinch, I've used the strap across the back of the MC or I've made a piece similar to the Bickel piece out of thin wall tubing with an end cap and a flange to capture it under the MC. I also use some sort of a positive stop on the brake pedal. Plastic brake light switches are not very secure and are often missing. Also verify the hardware, clips, pins or whatever that attaches the rod to the pedal.

Dave Gantz · 09-16-2017, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

Ron

This^^

CMcAllister · 09-16-2017, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys dad

Why isn't it mandatory like a seat belt or helmet?

It could be covered in the tech inspections.

Ron

Long ago when I did tech at a local track for a few years, it was not unusual for me to reach in and give the brake pedal a jerk up and then a push down on the Mopars. Kind of surprising that some folks are unaware of the issue and how to prevent it.

Tom P · 09-17-2017, 10:38 PM

As a Ford guy this is quite a foreign problem. Every pushrod i've tried to remove from a master cylinder required tools and sometimes naughty words. The manual brake ones have a groove in the pushrod and a clip

Here's an aftermarket adjustable one that shows it.
http://www.cjponyparts.com/media/cat...161_1.1113.jpg

09-14-2017, 07:26 AM	#22
J&S Racing Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 280 Likes: 102 Liked 288 Times in 78 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety Well this was good timing. Car just came back from the chassis shop and first order of business is brakes. I will be using the mopar master with the 4 to 2 adapter like David and I'm wondering the same thing. Can the bickle piece be used with the adaptor or will a stop need to be made?

09-14-2017, 03:46 PM	#23
Strawboss Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 15 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety We did this on a Camaro back in the late 80's. We bent a u shaped bracket about 1" wide thin metal with a hole in the center and placed it behind the MS and the push rod thru the hole. You had to slot the firewall to clear the bracket and drill holes to bolt on the MS bolts but this way there is no way for the rod to fall out. It is still that way today. This is cheap an easy to do.

09-14-2017, 07:42 PM	#24
B Aceves Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 457 Likes: 1 Liked 7 Times in 4 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety So for the guys or gals that buy the Lamb brake conversion don't pass up the master cylinder option. All the master cylinders come with the life saving bracket as well from Lamb. __________________ Bob Aceves, 746 E/SA A&M motorsports

09-14-2017, 09:00 PM	#25
Kevin Panzino Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 520 Likes: 245 Liked 550 Times in 106 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety Yep, very big deal. I remember when this came up several years ago, someone wrecked from this and posted about it on here. I immediately went downstairs and 'enlisted' my young son who was far more flexible than me to go under there and check it out. No problem, the bolt and nut arrangement was already in place limiting the back travel of the pedal ('ol Joe Scott knew what he was doing ) Attached Thumbnails

09-15-2017, 11:01 PM	#26
CMcAllister Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fulton County, PA Posts: 531 Likes: 9 Liked 735 Times in 205 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety I've seen a number of cars torn up over the years and some guys who were lucky to not get badly hurt. On anything I'm involved with I use a positive pushrod retainer of some sort at the master cylinder. In a pinch, I've used the strap across the back of the MC or I've made a piece similar to the Bickel piece out of thin wall tubing with an end cap and a flange to capture it under the MC. I also use some sort of a positive stop on the brake pedal. Plastic brake light switches are not very secure and are often missing. Also verify the hardware, clips, pins or whatever that attaches the rod to the pedal.

09-17-2017, 10:38 PM	#29
Tom P Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 691 Likes: 28 Liked 213 Times in 85 Posts	Re: S/SS Brake safety As a Ford guy this is quite a foreign problem. Every pushrod i've tried to remove from a master cylinder required tools and sometimes naughty words. The manual brake ones have a groove in the pushrod and a clip Here's an aftermarket adjustable one that shows it. http://www.cjponyparts.com/media/cat...161_1.1113.jpg