What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker.

Paul Ceasrine · 07-01-2010, 03:45 PM

Has anybody come up with that one?

Ed Wright · 07-01-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Has anybody come up with that one?

I had a couple. Just what do you mean?

Paul Ceasrine · 07-01-2010, 04:52 PM

Ed,
Is there a proper technical term.
Such as small-block engine, or D/Stock and above.
There are several general terms.
Some older guys say it ended in 1968, when they re-arranged the classes.
Others say, the 10.00 wt/hp break is the starting line of Jr. Stock.
Some others state that the 66' Street Hemi A/S is not a Jr. Stocker.
and no big-blocks.
But others consisder those 62' Dodge/Plymouth 361/305HP
(C/SA & D/SA) and 383/343HP (B/SA & C/SA) cars as Jr. Stockers. (I guess because its a small big-block/low-block)
PC

Michael Beard · 07-01-2010, 04:58 PM

Guess you could ask the guys at the York US30 Reunion next weekend. They're doing a tribute to Junior Stock. www.yorknostalgia.com

Dwight Southerland · 07-01-2010, 06:37 PM

For the most part, Junior Stock was everything below the top classes. There was always a "Super Stock", designated as "S/S". In 1961 they created an "Optional Super Stock" class for specialty factory options. In 1962 and 1963 there was a "Super Super Stock", "SS/S". In 1964 and 1965, there was a "AA/S". Starting in 1964 were the Factory Experimental classes, usually an A, B and C class. These classes and the mixes in the eliminators changed from year to year. For eliminators, in 1964 the FX classes and the Super Stock classes ran for "Top Stock Eliminator". In 1965 and 1966, AA/S or A/S also was included in "Top Stock". Everything else ran for "Junior Stock Eliminator". In 1966, the FX classes got dumped into "Street Eliminator" with the Gas classes, Modified Production classes, Sports Car classes and Modified Sports Car classes. In 1967, the FX classes were replaced with 10 Super Stock Classes and the eliminators were confined to the Super Stock classes and Stock classes as we know them now.

Junior Stock generally meant the classes and cars that were common production combinations you would see middle America drive on the street and had been turned into drag race cars, not the specialty high performance purpose built cars that the factory produced for performance impact sales.

X-TECH MAN · 07-01-2010, 06:49 PM

[QUOTE=Dwight Southerland;

Junior Stock generally meant the classes and cars that were common production combinations you would see middle America drive on the street and had been turned into drag race cars, not the specialty high performance purpose built cars that the factory produced for performance impact sales.[/QUOTE]

Kind of like the Blown Mustangs and DP Dodge cars of today.....lol.

Jim B · 07-02-2010, 04:28 AM

This is a link to a Hot Rod magazine article that pretty much covers it:

http://www.hotrod.com/whereitbegan/h...ing/index.html

JrStk · 07-03-2010, 06:48 AM

Out side of the implemented year limit, what other rule changes were made after Nov. 71? Why do we consider this date as the end of Jr Stock?
Its great to read the comments from the guys that were there. Thanks for posting.
Doug

X-TECH MAN · 07-03-2010, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JrStk

Out side of the implemented year limit, what other rule changes were made after Nov. 71? Why do we consider this date as the end of Jr Stock?
Its great to read the comments from the guys that were there. Thanks for posting.
Doug

NHRA turned them all into Super Stockers. Any cam, valve spring, intake manifold, any tire that would fit the stock fender wells, As time went on more and more changes were allowed such as tubbing the rear fender wells, larger tires, roller cams. ported heads etc.
The stock classes were really STOCK with DOT tires (not the new sticky DOT type tires), OEM exhaust manifolds, a year limit (1960 and newer) No blueprinted cams, etc. and in the beginning the top class (A/S) was 9 lbs per HP instead of 8 lbs per HP.

treessavoy · 07-03-2010, 01:46 PM

I think that traditionally Junior Stock meant the cars from the '50's to include the 55-59 chevys, 58-60 pontiacs, etc.

The end of Junior stock came with the big block cars of the early '60's. 1961 cars under 389ci's were JS, once the over 400ci motors hit the market and the factories got involved the days of JS were over.

Just my opinion but if you brought back JR racing today all you would see would be 55-57 chevies,

JimR

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Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. Guess you could ask the guys at the York US30 Reunion next weekend. They're doing a tribute to Junior Stock. www.yorknostalgia.com __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,981 Likes: 53 Liked 724 Times in 177 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. For the most part, Junior Stock was everything below the top classes. There was always a "Super Stock", designated as "S/S". In 1961 they created an "Optional Super Stock" class for specialty factory options. In 1962 and 1963 there was a "Super Super Stock", "SS/S". In 1964 and 1965, there was a "AA/S". Starting in 1964 were the Factory Experimental classes, usually an A, B and C class. These classes and the mixes in the eliminators changed from year to year. For eliminators, in 1964 the FX classes and the Super Stock classes ran for "Top Stock Eliminator". In 1965 and 1966, AA/S or A/S also was included in "Top Stock". Everything else ran for "Junior Stock Eliminator". In 1966, the FX classes got dumped into "Street Eliminator" with the Gas classes, Modified Production classes, Sports Car classes and Modified Sports Car classes. In 1967, the FX classes were replaced with 10 Super Stock Classes and the eliminators were confined to the Super Stock classes and Stock classes as we know them now. Junior Stock generally meant the classes and cars that were common production combinations you would see middle America drive on the street and had been turned into drag race cars, not the specialty high performance purpose built cars that the factory produced for performance impact sales. Last edited by Dwight Southerland; 07-01-2010 at 06:40 PM. Reason: Additional content

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X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. [QUOTE=Dwight Southerland; Junior Stock generally meant the classes and cars that were common production combinations you would see middle America drive on the street and had been turned into drag race cars, not the specialty high performance purpose built cars that the factory produced for performance impact sales.[/QUOTE] Kind of like the Blown Mustangs and DP Dodge cars of today.....lol.

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JrStk Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Cambridge, ON Posts: 13 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. Out side of the implemented year limit, what other rule changes were made after Nov. 71? Why do we consider this date as the end of Jr Stock? Its great to read the comments from the guys that were there. Thanks for posting. Doug

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treessavoy VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dunnellon,FL Posts: 1,103 Likes: 0 Liked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: What is the correct description of a 60's Jr. stocker. I think that traditionally Junior Stock meant the cars from the '50's to include the 55-59 chevys, 58-60 pontiacs, etc. The end of Junior stock came with the big block cars of the early '60's. 1961 cars under 389ci's were JS, once the over 400ci motors hit the market and the factories got involved the days of JS were over. Just my opinion but if you brought back JR racing today all you would see would be 55-57 chevies, JimR __________________ Jim Rountree