Not so simple solution

barnca2010 · 10-01-2016, 07:21 PM

Someone with a lot of money needs to buy IHRA. Change the name to SHRA. Sportsman Hot Rod Association.. Good payout and you guys don't have to worry about getting bent over by NHRA. But till you walk away from them.. You will continue to get screwed.

Pinballer · 10-01-2016, 07:37 PM

Or...-Don't- buy IHRA and form your own Sportsman association. Have 10 sensibly divided divisions across America and Canada so the western guys out in the wide open spaces won't have to haul 1000 miles to get some points. I'm sure if you'd tell a track owner you wanted to bring 150+ wheelstanding cars in for a weekend, they'd probably be interested in providing a facility.

MadMax404 · 10-02-2016, 03:26 AM

I can't ever pass up a good shameless self promotion plug when it presents itself but there's already an SHRA(southwest heritage racing association) that I helped build and run. It's a nostalgia series here in division 4. We do have a Nostalgia super stock class too btw!

I couldn't help it, the shameless plug opportunity was just too good to pass up!

j gardiner · 10-02-2016, 08:47 AM

Unless your giving out Wallys or bringing in John Force so they can race on the same track they're not coming.

Superfan1 · 10-02-2016, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by j gardiner

Unless your giving out Wallys or bringing in John Force so they can race on the same track they're not coming.

I agree. The lack of support for the Northern Class Nationals in 2014 and 2015 is a perfect example.

barnca2010 · 10-02-2016, 01:21 PM

How about a race at LVD. All NHRA and IHRA classes are welcome. Would try to get a date that doesn't conflict with national events or divisional events in in the northeast and east coast.. It's time to put up or shut up.. When the D1 schedule comes out we will try to get a date at LVD. And if it doesn't get any racer support.. Then you are the ones to blame.

BKSG1198 · 10-02-2016, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Superfan1

I agree. The lack of support for the Northern Class Nationals in 2014 and 2015 is a perfect example.

Have to agree with Bill,

Before the Northern Class Nationals you had the Combo in the Hills run by Lee Zane & Brian Van Poppel and the .90 Nationals run by myself. Both were run on off weekends from the local D1 Divisional & National events and the Combo in the Hills was a success on the first year in 2011 for Brian & Lee with car counts (Around 90+) but, the rest of the events we all took a bath by the time everything came out. We had great sponsors who supported the event in contingency (Maybe not $$$ but, in product GC returns) that we gave back to racers with "best losing packages, perfect tree, etc" and still didn't show up. Finding a track that ALL will actually show up is a battle and finding a track that the cost will not be so much. I can tell you from my research besides Numidia your looking at $14,000 to $20,000 a weekend for track rental. You look at LVD with a D1 Race and it always falls pretty short with .90 cars because a lot are based down here and don't like driving to LVD.

I'm not saying it's not a bad idea but, I've been there, done that and my rear end still hurts 3 years later

James Perrone · 10-02-2016, 09:34 PM

Go to a East Coast Stock Super race. Best deal in class racing. Full payback Dave and Gloria are the best.

Dennis P Chapman · 10-02-2016, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by James Perrone

Go to a East Coast Stock Super race. Best deal in class racing. Full payback Dave and Gloria are the best.

x2

BKSG1198 · 10-03-2016, 07:53 AM

Just Like James & Dennis said Dave, Gloria, Bill, and some guy named Russ do a great job with the ECSSSA. Dave has taught me and gave me lots of pointers with the Mid Atlantic .90 Association and I believe his help has turned the Association into what it is today.

Even Dave has felt the sting of trying to run a big $$$ event the day before a D1 race and got burnt on it at Atco many years back. It's just tough to get people away from the prestige and wally chasing not matter what you put together. You could put together a $25,000 to win Stock / SS race and someone will tell you "Well, there's a National Open in Cayuga for $2,000 & a Wally" so I'm going there. I know it sounds insane but, I had people drive pass Numidia (I mean travel past the exit to the track...Yes, it's a tough tow) to go to Charlotte in 2013 because it was a National Event.

Plus weekends you have off to put on an event you run into Association Events such as ECSSSA, All-Stars, NESSA, Mid Atlantic.90 Association, TNT Super Series and you end up hurting the series that actually support the racers and make them feel welcomed.

10-01-2016, 07:21 PM	#1
barnca2010 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 621 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Not so simple solution Someone with a lot of money needs to buy IHRA. Change the name to SHRA. Sportsman Hot Rod Association.. Good payout and you guys don't have to worry about getting bent over by NHRA. But till you walk away from them.. You will continue to get screwed. __________________ I take pictures. And shoot arrows. https://www.facebook.com/WHEELZUPRADIO

10-01-2016, 07:37 PM	#2
Pinballer Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Suburbs of fabulous Lerna IL Posts: 214 Likes: 8 Liked 10 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution Or...-Don't- buy IHRA and form your own Sportsman association. Have 10 sensibly divided divisions across America and Canada so the western guys out in the wide open spaces won't have to haul 1000 miles to get some points. I'm sure if you'd tell a track owner you wanted to bring 150+ wheelstanding cars in for a weekend, they'd probably be interested in providing a facility. __________________ Brian Saunders Lerna IL '79 AMX T/SA 3790 currently being resurrected

10-02-2016, 03:26 AM	#3
MadMax404 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution I can't ever pass up a good shameless self promotion plug when it presents itself but there's already an SHRA(southwest heritage racing association) that I helped build and run. It's a nostalgia series here in division 4. We do have a Nostalgia super stock class too btw! I couldn't help it, the shameless plug opportunity was just too good to pass up! __________________ Mad Max NHRA/IHRA Stock 4040 Mickey Thompson Tires;Mothers Polish; Champion Brands Oils

10-02-2016, 08:47 AM	#4
j gardiner Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: waldorf Posts: 194 Likes: 9 Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution Unless your giving out Wallys or bringing in John Force so they can race on the same track they're not coming.

10-02-2016, 01:21 PM	#6
barnca2010 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 621 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution How about a race at LVD. All NHRA and IHRA classes are welcome. Would try to get a date that doesn't conflict with national events or divisional events in in the northeast and east coast.. It's time to put up or shut up.. When the D1 schedule comes out we will try to get a date at LVD. And if it doesn't get any racer support.. Then you are the ones to blame. __________________ I take pictures. And shoot arrows. https://www.facebook.com/WHEELZUPRADIO

10-02-2016, 09:34 PM	#8
James Perrone VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: LONG ISLAND N.Y. Posts: 1,596 Likes: 2,930 Liked 1,610 Times in 377 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution Go to a East Coast Stock Super race. Best deal in class racing. Full payback Dave and Gloria are the best. __________________ james perrone 1290 STK

10-03-2016, 07:53 AM	#10
BKSG1198 VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back in Vineland, NJ Posts: 2,461 Likes: 81 Liked 984 Times in 299 Posts	Re: Not so simple solution Just Like James & Dennis said Dave, Gloria, Bill, and some guy named Russ do a great job with the ECSSSA. Dave has taught me and gave me lots of pointers with the Mid Atlantic .90 Association and I believe his help has turned the Association into what it is today. Even Dave has felt the sting of trying to run a big $$$ event the day before a D1 race and got burnt on it at Atco many years back. It's just tough to get people away from the prestige and wally chasing not matter what you put together. You could put together a $25,000 to win Stock / SS race and someone will tell you "Well, there's a National Open in Cayuga for $2,000 & a Wally" so I'm going there. I know it sounds insane but, I had people drive pass Numidia (I mean travel past the exit to the track...Yes, it's a tough tow) to go to Charlotte in 2013 because it was a National Event. Plus weekends you have off to put on an event you run into Association Events such as ECSSSA, All-Stars, NESSA, Mid Atlantic.90 Association, TNT Super Series and you end up hurting the series that actually support the racers and make them feel welcomed.